patriotsheatyan Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Ben, Decastro, Brown, etc... How much has Bell befitted from their presence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVillain112 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I've often said the best RB in the NFL is the Steelers OL... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iknowcool Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 He's benefited, but I wouldn't say any more or less than what Gurley benefits from playing with the Rams or Kamara benefits from playing with the Saints. That is to say I'm not sure it matters much. Bell is still one of the best RBs in the league. Conner is simply proving to be really good as well. I think he'll be fine wherever he goes unless its a dumpster fire. Whether he's worth whatever contract he gets though, I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBLIII Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Bell is really good. I wouldn't put him in the same category as Gurley though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elky Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Bell is a system RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danand Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 I agree with the villain here. Every runningback is more than 50% a product of surrounding talent/offensive line/scheme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43M Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 10 hours ago, Elky said: Bell is a system RB. I don't like Bell anymore, but this is laughably wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 last I checked, his offensive line doesn't have anything to do with his patience and decisiveness as a runner. Nor does it have to do with talent as a receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 We've seen James Connor and DeAngelo Williams do very well behind this OL - so while I think Le'Veon is still a good player, I think he benefits from a very good blocking scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
childofpudding Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 42 minutes ago, JustAnotherFan said: last I checked, his offensive line doesn't have anything to do with his patience and decisiveness as a runner. Nor does it have to do with talent as a receiver. The latter part I agree with. The former, I disagree. RBs with bad OLs don't have the luxury of being "patient," ie. standing behind their offensive lineman for seemingly forever until they find the right hole to explode through. Bell's patience is made possible by the OL not allowing tacklers through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 9 minutes ago, childofpudding said: The latter part I agree with. The former, I disagree. RBs with bad OLs don't have the luxury of being "patient," ie. standing behind their offensive lineman for seemingly forever until they find the right hole to explode through. Bell's patience is made possible by the OL not allowing tacklers through Yes, but most RB's don't have the same level of patience in the backfield as Bell does and alot of them don't give their blockers enough time to create a lane and then allow then to get to the second level ....instead they just try an shoot right through. I don't knock Bell for that at at all. That's just playing smart football. Most RB's also don't have the wherewithal to choose the right hole or cutback lane on a consistent basis as he does either. Very rarely will see you find yourself going "damn he took the wrong hole....he should've taken X instead of Z". His ability to make guys miss and/or shed tackles are something else that he has the ability to do at a high rate. These are some of the individual skills that have made him one of the best RB's in league every year, IMO, that are completely separate from the OL. I get the OL argument but that can be said for any offense. That's just the nature of the game....I know it's cliche to say, but the game starts up front. A QB, for example, is going to look terrible if he doesn't the time to throw the ball. But if he has a good OL are we going to credit the OL for the QB's individual skills? I know I wouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedTheClock Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Le'Veon Bell has certainly benefited from the players around him, but it doesn't mean he's a bum elsewhere. He's still a very good RB. This time off will hurt him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 On 11/6/2018 at 5:50 AM, Elky said: Bell is a system RB. Bell is an above average RB, but he's more in the class of say... Melvin Gordon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Bell is still easily a Top 3 RB in the NFL. Here we go again, this forum with their “one season vision” as always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 I don’t know why we punish folks for having elite talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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