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The Raiders have sent their scouts home until after the draft, according to Ian Rapoport of NFL Media. Per the report, coach Jon Gruden and G.M. Mike Mayock “don’t know who to trust.”

(Well, for starters, they can’t trust whoever leaked that tidbit to Rapoport.)

It’s a bizarre report, for a variety of reasons. First, it suggests an unprecedented level of paranoia. Second, it reveals that Gruden and Mayock have no functional plan for securing the most sensitive information regarding their final draft board or strategy, without demoralizing the entire scouting staff. Third, acting on the lack of trust creates the impression that the Raiders are more dysfunctional than other teams, even if other teams have the same concerns.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/19/report-raiders-send-scouts-home-until-after-the-draft/

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This is kinda fun, some Cold War era levels of distrust and deceit.... Hard Knocks needs to get in there NOW 

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1. I imagine most teams don't share their draft boards with the whole organization.  I'm sure its limited to a handful of people.  

2. Wouldn't surprise me if they plan on overhauling the entire scouting department after the draft since Mayock is there now.  Its pretty standard to keep your current scouting staff during a GM change then overhaul after the draft.  If they don't plan on retaining them after the draft why have them there on draft day?  

Seems to me like changes are coming post draft, they already have the scouting reports in hand so they are just moving on from these guys now and putting the draft in the hands of the guys that are actually calling the shots.  I don't really understand the drama over this?  

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what other Raider leaks have come out recently? Curious to know why they felt they had to do this

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6 minutes ago, MKnight82 said:

1. I imagine most teams don't share their draft boards with the whole organization.  I'm sure its limited to a handful of people.  

2. Wouldn't surprise me if they plan on overhauling the entire scouting department after the draft since Mayock is there now.  Its pretty standard to keep your current scouting staff during a GM change then overhaul after the draft.  If they don't plan on retaining them after the draft why have them there on draft day?  

Seems to me like changes are coming post draft, they already have the scouting reports in hand so they are just moving on from these guys now and putting the draft in the hands of the guys that are actually calling the shots.  I don't really understand the drama over this?  

This is it.  We are already planning on overhauling the scouting dept after this draft with Mayock's guys.  Mayock doesnt have any of his guys on the staff right now and all the current scouts are from the former regime.  Plus, apparently the Board is pretty much set and they're running war room simulations mostly up until the draft.

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3 minutes ago, Chwf3rd25 said:

This is it.  We are already planning on overhauling the scouting dept after this draft with Mayock's guys.  Mayock doesnt have any of his guys on the staff right now and all the current scouts are from the former regime.  Plus, apparently the Board is pretty much set and they're running war room simulations mostly up until the draft.

Right.  So why is this even a story?

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7 minutes ago, N4L said:

what other Raider leaks have come out recently? Curious to know why they felt they had to do this

They aren't taking a quarterback, will get 3 offensive starters in the first couple of rounds. 

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This is blown out of proportion by the media with a twisted narrative. 

Scouts were sent home for Easter because the rest of the week is devoted to simulating draft process/trades/etc. This has been known for a while, according to Raiders reporters. Fewer people, fewer leaks. Seems like a good way to prep and run a draft.”

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The first reaction is to of course bash the Raiders but the reality is this is completely normal. Daniel Jeremiah a former scout had to educate a lot of media members on the issue. Not to mention Mike Mayock let all of Reggie McKenzie's scouts stay on for this draft since they had already put in all the work, again which is normal and respectful. Under Reggie the Raiders have had multiple picks leak out to the media, there is a rat in that building and Mayock know it. Mike isn't messing around.

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Posted (edited)

So, how soon before Gruden or Mayock come out and scream "FAKE NEWS!"?

Edited by swede700

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This story is so blown out of proportion by people that are oblivious to how scouting and scouting contracts actually work.

Scouts being done/sent home is common place for New personnel leader led groups and old ones alike as they are done with their work. It's now time for a selected group of personnel execs and decision makers to synthesize all information and formulate an executable plan.

It is common for scouting contracts to be out of contract the week or so before the draft. This happens in every scouting department. Literally, the day of the draft around the league scouts know they won't be back, some have been told they won't be renewed, others are allowed to stay around the process as a courtesy, only a select few stay in collaborative discussion with the GMs/lead personnel execs, the Patriots and Cardinals and many other teams are known to have very few people in the room during the draft. Everyone else is somewhere else in the building watching it unfold like the general public.

No one says anything when scouts and personnel execs are fired in mass 24-48 hours after the draft. This happens all the time. What? Did people think that 24-48 hours prior the fired scouts were aware of intimate details regarding the draft decisions and strategy?? Hell no they weren't. They were out the loop well ahead of their firing.

Scouting is a brutal business ... on the road away from family ... eating fast food on the run staying in cheap hotels ... getting fired the days before or after all your work comes to fruition.

This is media sensationalism. Mostly peddled as another storyline to keep the NFL supreme in people's minds as an entertaining drama.

Edited by Mind Character

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17 minutes ago, CerealKiller said:

Am I missing something or are people being a tad dramatic about this?

We will make this a 57 page forum topic. It is our duty. We must. - Jon Snow

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