struby3 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Gravity said: Any chance we keep 4 Rb's (Mostert, Breida, Mckinnon, Coleman) on the team with the expanded rosters? It is still a 53 man roster. Teams just have the option of promoting two PS players per week to the active roster. Therefore, it's not like we can safely keep 55 players. Those 2 PS players can still be poached by other teams and they still have to go though waivers after the initial cut down date and anytime after their second promotion to the active roster (which has to be done weekly). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49ersfan Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 (edited) So essentially... Losses: Buckner (trade), Staley (retirement), Sanders (FA), Breida (trade), Goodwin (trade), Person (release), Toilolo (FA), Lee (FA) Additions: Kinlaw (Draft), Aiyuk (draft), Williams (trade), Compton (FA) Re-signed/Tendered - Armstead, Ward, Blair, Garland, Bourne How y'all feel about it overall? Would you guys do anything different? Edited April 26, 2020 by 49ersfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan77733 Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 52 minutes ago, 49ersfan said: So essentially... Losses: Buckner (trade), Staley (retirement), Sanders (FA), Breida (trade), Goodwin (trade), Person (release), Toilolo (FA), Lee (FA) Additions: Kinlaw (Draft), Aiyuk (draft), Williams (trade), Compton (FA) Re-signed/Tendered - Armstead, Ward, Blair, Garland, Bourne How y'all feel about it overall? Would you guys do anything different? Personally, I would have kept Buckner, Armstead, Blair, Garland and Bourne, re-signed Sanders, kept Breida, drafted an OT at 14 and then tried to trade out of #31 for a 2021 first round draft pick. If not, trade for a 2nd and 3rd or worse case scenario, I would have drafted McKinney since he was probably the best player on the board at #31. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 29 minutes ago, dan77733 said: Personally, I would have kept Buckner, Armstead, Blair, Garland and Bourne, re-signed Sanders, kept Breida, drafted an OT at 14 and then tried to trade out of #31 for a 2021 first round draft pick. If not, trade for a 2nd and 3rd or worse case scenario, I would have drafted McKinney since he was probably the best player on the board at #31. How would you have gotten the money to keep all of those players? Because what you're proposing was not feasible. Especially since you are drafting at 14 and keeping Buckner.... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straighthate Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 So where we at with salary cap now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustrianNiner Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 2 hours ago, 49ersfan said: So essentially... Losses: Buckner (trade), Staley (retirement), Sanders (FA), Breida (trade), Goodwin (trade), Person (release), Toilolo (FA), Lee (FA) Additions: Kinlaw (Draft), Aiyuk (draft), Williams (trade), Compton (FA) Re-signed/Tendered - Armstead, Ward, Blair, Garland, Bourne How y'all feel about it overall? Would you guys do anything different? Still would have liked to do the first two picks differently, getting a top WR before someone like Blacklock because even though the gap between Kinlaw and Blacklock might be bigger then between Lamb and Aiyuk, I thought top talent at WR was more important than at DL. And hands down, Lamb would have been by far the most exciting player, which is probably not the best reason though lol. We'll see how that move turns out. Can't really complain about the other moves they have done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinerNation21 Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 2 hours ago, 49ersfan said: So essentially... Losses: Buckner (trade), Staley (retirement), Sanders (FA), Breida (trade), Goodwin (trade), Person (release), Toilolo (FA), Lee (FA) Additions: Kinlaw (Draft), Aiyuk (draft), Williams (trade), Compton (FA) Re-signed/Tendered - Armstead, Ward, Blair, Garland, Bourne How y'all feel about it overall? Would you guys do anything different? Fine with everything except not keeping Sanders. Not sure if it could’ve happened or not, but that’s all I’d change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-ALL-DAY Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 29 minutes ago, straighthate said: So where we at with salary cap now? Around $11 million. 2 hours ago, 49ersfan said: So essentially... Losses: Buckner (trade), Staley (retirement), Sanders (FA), Breida (trade), Goodwin (trade), Person (release), Toilolo (FA), Lee (FA) Additions: Kinlaw (Draft), Aiyuk (draft), Williams (trade), Compton (FA) Re-signed/Tendered - Armstead, Ward, Blair, Garland, Bourne How y'all feel about it overall? Would you guys do anything different? I'm fine with it. Still rather have gone Jeudy/Lamb with our first pick and then take best interior DL with our second pick. But it still worked out at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49ersfan Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 I'd also have liked to keep Sanders (2/16 is a fair contract). And i also didn't see the point of cutting Person. So i guess it depends how Aiyuk & either Brunskill/Compton/McKvitz do at WR/RG Other than that i'm fine with how things played out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
757-NINER Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 (edited) Sooooooooo...with the offseason pretty much over from a personnel +/- with the draft now over, how is everyone feeling about the 2020 Niners roster wise? My take, position by position... QB I know the thought of Brady in this offense was tantalizing to ALOT of the fanbase. But I think we did the right thing sticking with Jimmy G. He has his warts but in his first full-season as a starter, he reaches the SB. Don't think that's a bad way to start off your reign as a franchise QB. BUT we've been here before. Jimmy will have to make strides and show improvement with his decision-making and accuracy to really cement himself as the future of the franchise at the position. He'll be under the microscope again and he'll need to perform. I'm fine with Mullens as the back-up. CJ is CJ...meh. Grade = B- RB Will McKinnon finally be healthy? I sure as hell hope so lol. There is so much potential for him in this offense. And with him back at a significantly reduced rate, I am eager to see if he can finally make a contribution. I know some don't like Coleman but in a rotation I feel he's a solid role player. Mostert should be poised to pick-up right where he left off. And we were able to flip a UDFA in Brieda into a 5th round pick. And if you count Jeff Wilson, we have staple of RBs that really fit what we do. Sure it may lack in star power but I feel the sum is greater than the parts... Grade = B+ FB/TE Juice and Kittle...nuff said. Dwelley should improve. Not too concern about not having a blocking TE, as I feel that can be addressed before or during TC if Shanny doesn't like what he's seen from Woerner. Helm I intially had pegged as Juice's understudy. But Woerner seems to fit that description much better, as Helm is nowhere near the blocker he is. Also think we're shifting to more of a H-Back system and won't have guys be in-line as much. But that could just be what I see... Grade = A OG/OC Meh...I'm just not thrilled that we once again haven't really addressed RG. I know some believe McKivitz can play guard. But to me that is the problem. I'm tired of these converted OTs with a linear build and barley 305 lbs, lining up inside and being asked to keep giants like Chris Jones and DeFo from pummeling Jimmy into the Earth. I'm just not a believer in that approach. We need a Tomlinson for the right side. Doesn't have to be a world beater talent-wise but a guy with a little girth, who can still move and play with pop behind their pads. Moving guys like Brunskill inside is just not good enough imo. Compton is just not good and should be in case of a emergency only. I love Richburg in our scheme. But the constant parade of injuries are irritating. I'm glad they brought back Garland. Think he showed to be a quality back-up. But I feel like a heir apparent to Richburg needs to be in place. Grade = C- OT It will absolutely SUCK not seeing #74 lining up at LT. Staley was a joy to watch and never made us lose any sleeping worrying about who was lining up across from him. It was a big blow losing him to retirement. Not only skill-wise but for just his presence on the field and in the locker room. But if we had to replace him with anyone, I don't think we could have found a more talented guy than Trent Williams. The situation in DC aside, he seems like a solid teammate. And is easily Top 3 at his position. And while some believe his time off from football may leave him rusty, I think the time off will only help him and his body stay healthy. I think he hits the ground running...literally and figuratively. McG is solid, though unspectacular. He'll give up his share of sacks/pressures but he's solid starting RT. And his blocking in the run game is really unheralded. We have slew of guys in the mix for swing tackle and some very good playable depth. Brunskill, Coleman, and Skule make this a very deep unit. McKivitz adds some nastiness to the mix. Going to be hard to keep all 4, even with the expanded rosters but I expect we will. Grade = B+ WR I wasn't too concerned about losing Sanders. I appreciated his solid play in the time he was here. But I felt with Deebo's emergence and Kittle's role in the pass-game, we should allocate the money it would have took to resign him and use it elsewhere. And that's exactly what we did. I expect Deebo to continue his trajectory as all-around WR while still continuing to be threat in the middle of the field and RAC monster. I think Bourne is a solid 3rd WR. Maybe asking a little much for him to be a viable starter opposite Deebo but for stretches during a season, I think he could perform in that role effectively. I've made my opinion known on the Aiyuk pick. Not a big fan of his but I can see potential for him in certain packages. I'm hopeful he proves me wrong. Pettis is virtual unknown at this point. I'm not even confident he even makes the roster. Both Hurd and Taylor are coming off injuries. Hurd to me, is the x-factor in the group. He could really push this group over the top if he can be that big target in the slot while also being a weapon Shanny can move around the formation. But right now, he's in the same category as Pettis. Taylor is purely a shifty slot guy and though that does have a role in this scheme, I feel his value has somewhat diminished. He'll have a chance to build his equity back up with a solid TC and pre-season. I am pleading with Shanny...begging even, to really give Richie James a look as a viable contributor on the outside. Every time his number was called@WR during the season, he made plays. Its one of the most baffling things to me. Whatever the case maybe, I'm holding out hope James could be the surprise of the group in 2020. I'm not expecting much from the rest of the group. Still think we may add a vet to the group as we get closer to TC. I still believe we lack a true burner on the outside. Benjamin isn't the answer... Grade = C+ D-Line We have the reigning DROY. We have one of the best edge rushers in the league in Dee Ford as a 3rd down/nickel specialist. AA returns off his best year as a pro and 50 million dollars richer. We just drafted a BEAST in Kinlaw, to add to the rotation. We're solid@NT with Jones, though I would prefer we had someone as a back-up who was more of a true nose. Thomas continues to be a bust but he is still solid depth along with guys like Taylor and Blair when they are healthy. Yes, losing a Pro Bowler and All-Pro like DeFo will be felt. And though I really wished we would have drafted a potential 3rd edge rusher, when healthy, this is the best D-Line in football, top to bottom. I also think guys like Givens and Hyder could be a pleasant surprises. But EVERYTHING hinges on the health of both Bosa and Ford. If either of those two miss any significant time, we're in trouble... Grade = A- LB Warner is entering his 3rd year and is coming off a tremendous 2nd season and emerged is one of the more promising young ILBs in the entire league. He should be even better and in line for Pro Bowl consideration moving forward. Alexander was huge boost to our LB corps and his speed and range really took this group to another level. Greenlaw surprised just about everyone with his play as a rookie and should be even better with a full year in the scheme. Al Shaair looks to be young, quality depth at all three spots and should be a plug and play reserve in the mold of Larry Grant during the Harbaugh era. Nzeocha was a solid in STs. Love how fast and disciplined this group played last year. They should be even better in 2020. Especially if Alexander can stay healthy... Grade = A S Both Tartt and Ward provided high-level starter play last season. Health will always be a concern with both but no reason to expect much of a drop-off from last season. Moore provides great depth as a centerfielder. Harris still needs work, especially with his tackling & play recognition but hopefully he takes a leap in his 3rd year. Would like to see them give Tabor a look@safety and see if there's anything there. Grade = B+ CB As I've stated before, hard to find a better foursome @CB than Sherman, Moseley, Spoon and Williams. Its obvious Sherman has lost a step...or two. But he's still a high-level starter. Spoon has to put it together, once and for all. The wait is over...its now or never for him. I'm higher on Moseley than most. Needs to get stronger but he's a baller in my eyes. Not sure what the future holds after 2020 for the group but that 4-man core should remain solid next season. Reed looks to be the heir apparent in the slot and if Verrett can get back to full health, we may be even deeper in 2020. I suspect Harris is still a year away from competing for a roster spot and looks to be headed to the PS, though I'll let his play ultimately decide that. Johnson seems like just a camp body. I'd be surprise if he made the roster though there must be something there the coaches seem to value. Grade = B+ Specialists Gould had a weirdly fluky year, including the injury. Missing his long snapper for a stretch and having a new holder didn't help but I expect him to bounce back and be the dependable kicker he has always been with us. Wish was solid but for a 4th round pick, I was expecting him to be more proficient pinning opponents within their own 20. He was a rookie so hopefully he got acclimated to the pro game and will show off that sonic boom of a leg we heard so much about when he was drafted. Nelson's suspension seemed to really stifle the kicking game early on. Hopefully that's behind him and we start the year off as a cohesive unit. 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NinerNation21 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 FA round 2 - commence! I honestly don't know how this feels about rushing to sign guys before or after this deadline. We're inline for 1 comp pick (I think) from Sanders but it's not a high one. With that said, I'd love to see the Niners sign a few guys. According to Spotrac, our cap space is a little over $15.7 mil, we still need to allocate $7.7 mil to rookie contracts and save a few mil for the regular season, so I think we'd have about $4-6 mil to play with for more FA's. I'd love to see the Niners sign an EDGE, since Blair might not be ready til mid season and we ran through so many EDGE guys last year because of injury. Someone like Damontre Moore would a low-cost pick up who won't demand a lot of playing time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-ALL-DAY Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 13 minutes ago, NinerNation21 said: FA round 2 - commence! I honestly don't know how this feels about rushing to sign guys before or after this deadline. We're inline for 1 comp pick (I think) from Sanders but it's not a high one. With that said, I'd love to see the Niners sign a few guys. According to Spotrac, our cap space is a little over $15.7 mil, we still need to allocate $7.7 mil to rookie contracts and save a few mil for the regular season, so I think we'd have about $4-6 mil to play with for more FA's. I'd love to see the Niners sign an EDGE, since Blair might not be ready til mid season and we ran through so many EDGE guys last year because of injury. Someone like Damontre Moore would a low-cost pick up who won't demand a lot of playing time. Don't forget about Kittle's extension. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-ALL-DAY Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 How would you guys rank our top 5 players heading into next season? 1. Kittle 2. Bosa 3. Williams 4. Armstead 5. Jimmy G HM: Warner, Sherman, Ward, Juice, Deebo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinerNation21 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 55 minutes ago, J-ALL-DAY said: Don't forget about Kittle's extension. Yeah, that needs to happen now. I was looking at our cap situation next season and as it stands right now before cap increase is $45 mil. We also have like 15-20 FA's next year, so it's going to be a very interesting off-season in 2021. But in 2022, our cap stands at over $130 mil. So we could see small cap hits in 2021 and larger ones in 2022 for new contracts next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenK Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 3 hours ago, J-ALL-DAY said: How would you guys rank our top 5 players heading into next season? 1. Kittle 2. Bosa 3. Williams 4. Armstead 5. Jimmy G HM: Warner, Sherman, Ward, Juice, Deebo Hard for me to put Williams in the top 5 knowing he hasn’t played for a minute. I understand he’s hungry to get on the field, so I’m excited, but my 5 will be: 1. Kittle 2. Bosa 3. Sherman 4. Jimmy 5. Armstead/Ford 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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