SkippyX Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 (edited) The Chiefs are in the Super Bowl with 1 of 5 O-lineman starters compared to last year. *Edit: this would be 2 if Wis starts at guard This is very unusual. I II Packers 3 of 5 returning V VI Cowboys 4 of 5 returning VI VII VIII Dolphins 3 of 5 and 5 of 5 returning VIII IX Vikings 2 of 5 returning IX X Steelers 5 of 5 returning XII XIII Cowboys 4 of 5 (the 5th started in earlier Super Bowls, HoF Rayfield Wright) XIII XIV Steelers 4 of 5 XVII XVIII Redskins 4 of 5 hogs XXI XXII Broncos 3 of 5 XXIII XXIV 49ers 4 of 5 XXV XXVI XXVII XXVIII Bills 4 of 5 and 5 of 5 and 5 of 5 and 3 of 5 XXVII XXVIII Cowboys 4 of 5 XXXI XXXII Packers 4 of 5 XXXII XXXIII Broncos 3 of 5 XXXVIII XXXIX Patriots 3 of 5 XLVIII XLVIX Seahawks 3 of 5 LI LII LIII Patriots 4 of 5 and 3 of 5 Edited January 31, 2021 by SkippyX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Note about the above. If Wisniewski goes in at guard because of Fisher's injury then its 2 returning starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 (edited) Quick look at PFF grades for O-lines KC averages 64.7 Tampa averages 76.1 If you ranked the 10 by rating, you would start with 4 Bucs before you got to a Chief. Fisher would have been 3rd at 80.0 Tampa will be starting 4 of 5 guys from week 1. KC will be starting 2 of 5 guys from week 1. Edited January 31, 2021 by SkippyX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefer Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 14 minutes ago, SkippyX said: Note about the above. If Wisniewski goes in at guard because of Fisher's injury then its 2 returning starters. Yes Wiz looks like he’s getting the SB start so far with Wylie moving out to RT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Chiefer said: Yes Wiz looks like he’s getting the SB start so far with Wylie moving out to RT He could be a starting lineman for 3 SB champs in 4 years. That's kinda crazy. He was on his 3rd team in Philly. He was on his 5th this year in Pittsburgh He was not on a winning team in his first 6 years in the league. His uncle played 13 years for the Raiders and never got to a Super Bowl. His uncle's last game? The Tuck Rule Game! The uncle was 34 during Brady's first Super Bowl run. The nephew will soon be 32. Edited January 31, 2021 by SkippyX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notthatbluestuff Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 8 hours ago, NeptunePenguins said: Tom Brady mostly loses to the meme esque QBs in the playoffs. 2005: Jake Plumber 2006: Peyton Manning (threw 3 TDs and 7 INTs in 4 playoff games with a 70.5 passer rating.) So he was playing like a meme QB at the time. 2007: Eli Manning 2009: Joe Flacco 2010: Mark Sanchez 2011: Eli Manning 2012: Joe Flacco 2013: Peyton Manning (The one time an all-time great QB played well and beat Tom Brady in the playoffs, but that 2013 Patriots team was not very good outside Brady tbh) 2015: Zombie Peyton Manning 2017: Nick Foles 2019: Ryan Tannehill Meanwhile he has beaten the likes of Kurt Warner, Peyton Manning 2000 times, Philip Rivers, Big Ben, McNabb, Russell Wilson, Matt Ryan, Andrew Luck, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, and Mahomes himself in the playoffs. Now I do think this is mostly just a coincidence, and that the Chiefs are probably favored to win yeah. Though if the Bucs get the job done, this will only add to the legend (outside of 2013 Manning beating one of the weaker Patriots teams I have seen) When you said 2000 times, you meant twice, right? Because that's how many times Brady beat Peyton in the playoffs. But yeah, almost the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamblinMan99 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Kansas City and I actually think it’s going to be a runaway too. Don’t think Tampa is going to know what hit them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTrav Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 7 hours ago, SkippyX said: Quick look at PFF grades for O-lines KC averages 64.7 Tampa averages 76.1 If you ranked the 10 by rating, you would start with 4 Bucs before you got to a Chief. Fisher would have been 3rd at 80.0 Tampa will be starting 4 of 5 guys from week 1. KC will be starting 2 of 5 guys from week 1. This is definitely concerning. I feel like with any other QB we'd be completely SNAFU on offense with our OL issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, BigTrav said: This is definitely concerning. I feel like with any other QB we'd be completely SNAFU on offense with our OL issues Andy is also really good with screens and the team speed at WR makes those screens deadly. I still would not be surprised if a few plays get blown up by instant pressure. A Mahomes with turf toe is still more mobile than most QBs but will he be mobile enough to make a few of those crazy plays while under pressure? Edited January 31, 2021 by SkippyX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August4th Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 wish the superbowl was today can TB/NFL really do anything close to a SB media week under covid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefer Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 1 hour ago, SkippyX said: Andy is also really good with screens and the team speed at WR makes those screens deadly. I still would not be surprised if a few plays get blown up by instant pressure. A Mahomes with turf toe is still more mobile than most QBs but will he be mobile enough to make a few of those crazy plays while under pressure? He did against the Bills. Granted they’re not as talented on the DL, but pressure is pressure and he still navigated very well against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 For 3 of the Brady losses the home team had an actual oxygen blood level advantage The Broncos are something like 17-5 at home in the playoffs. That's a .773 win % Brady himself at 33-11 is at .750 (20-4 at home, .833) 8-8 Tebow beat a 12-4 Steelers team in Denver One of those Brady losses had a center who bobbed before the snap so badly that his career ended Brady got hit something like 20 times that game The game still came down to a failed 2-point conversion after another Brady comeback The guy is 33-8 in the playoffs when he can breathe normally. Its kind of intimidating. It also took some really weird stuff for him to lose the 3 New York games. The NE special teams players decided to call a fake punt from their own 37 vs the Jets BJGE had an all-time lame effort play on a pick from a screen pass in that game The throw looks like it was to the defender but its because law firm was supposed to be there and supposed to try to catch the ball He stands still and watches it go You know all about those Super Bowls As far as Alex Smith vs Brees or Warner vs Rodgers or Luck over Smith straight up shootout, "I am the better QB today" wins over Brady? Foles for sure (and only just barely) Peyton Manning in the 2nd half of the AFCCG in Indy Mahomes almost had him in KC but Dee Ford gonna Dee Ford Mahomes was the better QB that day Flacco came really close to doing that 3 times He did it in 2012 In 2011 his WR dropped the ball The defender made a late play and the WR relaxed instead of holding the ball Then Billy Cundiff happened In 2014 he was doing it all game until one really bad throw late Eli beat him twice but it was a couple huge plays in low scoring games instead of Joe Montana style Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 3 hours ago, August4th said: wish the superbowl was today can TB/NFL really do anything close to a SB media week under covid? I imagine it's going to be done virtually. The traditional Super Bowl week kickoff event, known originally as "Media Day" but lately as "Opening Night," will be drastically altered Monday. To begin with, there will be no media. All interviews will be done via Zoom with just nine players from each team instead of full rosters. While it is still called "Opening Night," those interviews will be conducted during the day. Fans, who in recent years were allowed to watch on site, can instead turn to NFL Network (8 p.m. ET) for "the best of the best moments and an NFL Network exclusive conversation between Super Bowl coaches and quarterbacks," according to a league news release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeptunePenguins Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 18 hours ago, notthatbluestuff said: When you said 2000 times, you meant twice, right? Because that's how many times Brady beat Peyton in the playoffs. But yeah, almost the same thing. Oh yeah :V I guess I was thinking of the regular season yeah. Forgot it was just twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 If this is true.....full props to Gronk. Work smarter not harder! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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