Archimedes Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Chiefs_5627 said: Don't forget about the original Fitzmagic, Steve Deberg lol. Oh and Bono. Bono with the world’s slowest 70 yard TD run ever! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefs_5627 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Just now, Archimedes said: Bono with the world’s slowest 70 yard TD run ever! Ha! He might still be running the last few yards soon haha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDez Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 23 minutes ago, Chiefs_5627 said: Ha! He might still be running the last few yards soon haha 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ6 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Might be to early but if I had to take one QB to start a team with (all time) it would be him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefs_5627 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, DirtyDez said: Glorious and hilarious all in one lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asciimo Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, JJ6 said: Might be to early but if I had to take one QB to start a team with (all time) it would be him. this has been said about many QBs before him. if u wanna talk system QB.. i mean this is it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolts223 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 I think it will take him at least 7-8 full season as a starter to really work his way into that convo. He's on a top 3 all-time trajectory though. I'll echo what others have said and say I am curious to see what he looks like without an elite supporting cast. In 2006 Brady nearly took the Pats to the SB with Reche "Bugeyes" Caldwell as his #1 WR. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakuvious Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Archimedes said: Bono with the world’s slowest 70 yard TD run ever! I was barely alive for it, but this will always be one of my favorite football plays of all time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malak1 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 No reason not to have him there now. This will be a semantic game. He’s probably best ever already in terms of playing the position, but resumé, (aka GOAT) probably no one will ever touch TB12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) Look, most of us understand that Mahomes is well on his way but lets slow it down on calling him an ALL TIME great just yet. Edit: I didn't wanna offend anyone.) Edited January 25, 2021 by JAF-N72EX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakuvious Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 As for the thread topic, I think on some level he has to already be in that discussion. It's just incredibly hard to imagine ranking him, given the huge disparity in time played. But his resume, as far as accolades and success, already outpace the vast majority of QBs in NFL history. If you leave out bulk stats and years accrued, and just throw down the resume of 1 MVP, 3 conference championship games, 2 superbowls, 1 superbowl win (at least), 1 superbowl MVP (at least), add in that he's already top 25 in postseason passing TDs, top 30 in postseason passing yards, #1 in post season passer rating (obviously there's time for that one to fall.) All of that already adds up to a better resume than most QBs in NFL history. I don't think you can make a top 25 list of QBs all-time and not have to include him, based on just what he's done so far. That said, you can't assume longevity, and you do need some of that to get much higher. There is a reason Sterling Sharpe, Terrell Davis, Tony Boselli, (arguably) Calvin Johnson, Patrick Willis, even Kurt Warner to an extent, are capped a bit in terms of how high they can get on most people's all-time rankings. Does having one more superbowl appearance than Drew Brees offset having 7 fewer playoff appearances? Probably not. But it gets muddy trying to weigh those sorts of things if you want to do an actual ranking. If the man keeps up his playoff performances though, he's gonna skyrocket those potential all-time rankings. Right now, he's 6-1, averaging 300+ yards and 3 TDs per game. That's...disgusting. That's like, 88-89 Joe Montana playoff numbers. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Jakuvious said: f you leave out bulk stats and years accrued, and just throw down the resume of 1 MVP, 3 conference championship games, 2 superbowls, 1 superbowl win (at least), 1 superbowl MVP (at least), add in that he's already top 25 in postseason passing TDs, top 30 in postseason passing yards, #1 in post season passer rating (obviously there's time for that one to fall.) All of that already adds up to a better resume than most QBs in NFL history. Jak, you're not slick with throwing this list of Mahomes accolades in our faces. (k/k I know that's not what you were saying) Edited January 25, 2021 by JAF-N72EX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyB Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 I don't usually jump the gun on players; I think it's important to see them over the course of a few years. However, with Mahomes if you just watched him his first season as a starter, it was obvious that he was just so so so effing good. Not "he has talent, but he's gotta learn the pro game" good, or "He'll make mistakes and have growing pains but the foundation is there" good, but legit immediately pretty much the best QB in the league period, no need to grade on a curve. At that point it was really just a matter of him having a normal decade+ long career trajectory for a QB. I don't know if his he'll have a Brady-like resumé when it's all said and done (no Belichick, and not taking discounts might eat into his future Super Bowl apperances a bit), but I bet he'll be talked about when it comes to "best ever" conversations. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTrav Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 He IS the greatest. Maybe not in the sense of overall achievements and history (that's clearly Tom), but Patrick is the greatest talent ever. Ever. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 hour ago, malak1 said: No reason not to have him there now. This will be a semantic game. He’s probably best ever already in terms of playing the position, but resumé, (aka GOAT) probably no one will ever touch TB12. He hasn't played long enough to warrant that spot, plan and simple. If he suffers a catastrophic injury derailing the rest of his career, would he be on that overall list? No! As impressive as he has looked and given what he has accomplished thus far he is on pace to (1 day) be on that list. However I'd still take Dan Marino 1984 over any QB season since. Especially against this pass wacky, defensive touch/flag football they call the NFL these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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