NYRaider Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 13 hours ago, MrOaktown_56 said: You're not seriously comparing Harris to Joseph are you? Harris is honestly better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 25 minutes ago, jimkelly02 said: Can you post it when he does? This is the new one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drfrey13 Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 15 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Harris is honestly better. Depends on the role you want them to fill. I would go with Joseph but he will make more mistakes than Harris and at the same time make more impact plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 Just now, drfrey13 said: Depends on the role you want them to fill. I would go with Joseph but he will make more mistakes than Harris and at the same time make more impact plays. Neither guy is a good starting caliber safety. They're both just alright and likely backups for most teams. Ideally we'll still add a safety in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 23 minutes ago, agarcia34 said: This is the new one Much appreciated! (I thought it was gonna be a Twitter thing at first - and I don’t use social media) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbsk Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 2 hours ago, NYRaider said: Harris is honestly better. In no way, shape or form is Harris better than Joseph. You are going to laughable extremes to downplay Joseph now. No one claimed he'd be a Pro Bowler or an All Pro but no one in their right mind can think Harris is better surely? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 14 minutes ago, Darbsk said: In no way, shape or form is Harris better than Joseph. You are going to laughable extremes to downplay Joseph now. No one claimed he'd be a Pro Bowler or an All Pro but no one in their right mind can think Harris is better surely? Agreed Joseph is better than Harris. Harris is a better ballhawk, but that’s the only thing he does well. Harris has the worst Single-High I’ve ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
massraider Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 Hopefully the team thinks of him as a worst case scenario starter, and doesn't feel desperation to waste a top pick on a position that simply isn't impactful. Not unless the player is generational. And I haven't heard Reed or Thomas comparisons with anyone this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Darbsk said: In no way, shape or form is Harris better than Joseph. You are going to laughable extremes to downplay Joseph now. No one claimed he'd be a Pro Bowler or an All Pro but no one in their right mind can think Harris is better surely? Harris was comfortably our worst starter last year. I’m trying to think of the last time Joseph was considered anywhere near as much of a liability as Harris. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, MrOaktown_56 said: Harris was comfortably our worst starter last year. I’m trying to think of the last time Joseph was considered anywhere near as much of a liability as Harris. I thought this went without saying objectively but whenever Erik Harris was on the field it was like we only had 10 guys on defense 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 19 minutes ago, Jeremy408 said: I thought this went without saying objectively but whenever Erik Harris was on the field it was like we only had 10 guys on defense When harris was playing deep, I thought of it as the corner on an island LOL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 12 minutes ago, MrOaktown_56 said: When harris was playing deep, I thought of it as the corner on an island LOL. Whenever Erik Harris was on the field it was always a possibility for the other team to score a touchdown on that play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 3 hours ago, BayRaider said: Agreed Joseph is better than Harris. Harris is a better ballhawk, but that’s the only thing he does well. Harris has the worst Single-High I’ve ever seen. Seriously not trying to nitpick you at all...: but I don’t think Harris is a ballhawk.... he’s just a good opportunist who is good at catching overthrown balls. The guy wasn’t driving on balls and making athletic plays.... he was sitting back and caught some balls thrown right to him. The only INT he had that he actually “caused” was the one vs Indy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 1 minute ago, jimkelly02 said: Seriously not trying to nitpick you at all...: but I don’t think Harris is a ballhawk.... he’s just a good opportunist who is good at catching overthrown balls. The guy wasn’t driving on balls and making athletic plays.... he was sitting back and caught some balls thrown right to him. The only INT he had that he actually “caused” was the one vs Indy. Good awareness and good hands then? Joseph drops almost all picks. I mean I'm completely with you Harris is absolutely terrible, just trying to give the man credit on something lol. Joseph would be a better starter at FS than Harris. Although Joseph is still a below-average starter in this league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 Just now, BayRaider said: Good awareness and good hands then? Joseph drops almost all picks. I mean I'm completely with you Harris is absolutely terrible, just trying to give the man credit on something lol. Joseph would be a better starter at FS than Harris. Although Joseph is still a below-average starter in this league. Basically yeah.... I’m with ya.... Harris isn’t a bad player.... I’m a big supporter of his... great story, was a “True Raider”, seems like a good man... he’s just a bad starter. That’s on the team’s FO for not getting a starter and forcing him into the lineup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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