Troublez Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, lavar703 said: I agree. However, Ballard basically ripped Wentz at the combine. Irsay might be the main culprit but the Colts as an organization were clearly done with him. Look, I hope this thing works out. I’d love nothing more than to not have to worry about the QB position for the next 5-7 years but good QBs don’t just get dumped by multiple franchises in back to back years. Especially one that didn’t have a replacement. It’s a gigantic red flag That’s also why I said in this draft they need to target offensive firepower. London/Olave/Wilson/Burks/Jameson Williams and Trey McBride. Surround him with as many weapons as possible and just let him sling it. Didn't Kurt Warner get dumped back to back years? It happens... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 38 minutes ago, Troublez said: Didn't Kurt Warner get dumped back to back years? It happens... Yep. That’s a good pull. He definitely did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offbyone Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 11 hours ago, MikeT14 said: So that answers my question. Rivera didn't talk to Reich before the trade. Rivera better be right. I am rooting for that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceinthehouse Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Those of you who keep telling yourself that we gave up too much in draft capital for Wentz? Baker is on the Market & now we have this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 Matt Ryan to Colts for a 3rd. Seems like not a lot, but it would have been a weird move here with our offense. Still, it's wild how some things unfold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 19 minutes ago, MikeT14 said: Matt Ryan to Colts for a 3rd. Seems like not a lot, but it would have been a weird move here with our offense. Still, it's wild how some things unfold. Ya I have no interest in Matt Ryan. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naptownskinsfan Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 23 minutes ago, MikeT14 said: Matt Ryan to Colts for a 3rd. Seems like not a lot, but it would have been a weird move here with our offense. Still, it's wild how some things unfold. I’d prefer Ryan to Wentz. I would have to think long and hard about Jimmy G over Wentz though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 21 minutes ago, naptownskinsfan said: I’d prefer Ryan to Wentz. I would have to think long and hard about Jimmy G over Wentz though. Same as far as Ryan over Wentz, although I question his fit in our offense and if he would even waive his clause to come here. I'm DEFINITELY taking Wentz over Jimmy G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, naptownskinsfan said: I’d prefer Ryan to Wentz. I would have to think long and hard about Jimmy G over Wentz though. Matt Ryan will be 37 years old by week 1 of this season. No thanks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e16bball Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 20 minutes ago, MikeT14 said: Same as far as Ryan over Wentz, although I question his fit in our offense and if he would even waive his clause to come here. I'm DEFINITELY taking Wentz over Jimmy G. My eyes tell me Wentz over Jimmy G. My brain tells me Jimmy G x1000. That’s a tricky one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezy Fanatic Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Jameis at 2 for 28 would have been a lot more intriguing to me than Wentz, especially when you account for the picks as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, Jeezy Fanatic said: Jameis at 2 for 28 would have been a lot more intriguing to me than Wentz, especially when you account for the picks as well The picks are truly everything. In a vacuum of availability, you could argue between Jimmy, Wentz, Baker, Ryan, and all the FAs, that Wentz truly was the best option for this team. That said, giving up what you gave up along with what Ryan, Baker, et all are inevitably going to go for... Yeesh. The price you pay for not being a wanted destination nor having patience after losing on Wilson 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e16bball Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 With Ryan, I think Indy gets some certainty about right now. They know Ryan is basically a league average starting QB at this point if he’s on a decent team, which he will be. They have a guy who will be smart, reliable, predictable, and who was a monster the only time he ever had a running game like Indy has. They’re a team with aspirations of winning right now, and Ryan is a decent option for doing that. They gained a nice little pick swap this year and a (likely) 2nd rounder next year, and they saved a fair sum on the cap. For us, the one (only?) major benefit of Wentz over Ryan is that there’s really no long-term upside to Ryan. He’s old, he’s been around forever, he’s never going to be better than he is today. 5 years from now, he’s announcing games or coaching or playing golf. With Wentz, there does at least exist the possibility that he finds a home here, things really click, and he takes the next step into The Guy™️ status for the next decade. I’d set the odds there at maybe 10-15%. That’s what they’re gambling on, in my book, but honestly it feels like not even they’re bought into that as a likelihood. The Falcons, well…tank is now. Eat the dead cap, enter the cold winter, survive the awful years, and hopefully emerge with your next Matty Ice. Sorry, Arthur Smith. You can always get a job with your old man at FedEx. But sadly, in truth, they’re probably closer to Super Bowl contention than we are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e16bball Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 minute ago, MikeT14 said: The picks are truly everything. In a vacuum of availability, you could argue between Jimmy, Wentz, Baker, Ryan, and all the FAs, that Wentz truly was the best option for this team. That said, giving up what you gave up along with what Ryan, Baker, et all are inevitably going to go for... Yeesh. The price you pay for not being a wanted destination nor having patience after losing on Wilson Totally agree. With every word in it. They paid this price because they feared that everyone with the ability to say “no”…would say “no.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, e16bball said: Totally agree. With every word in it. They paid this price because they feared that everyone with the ability to say “no”…would say “no.” WHEN YOUR WORST FEARS COME TRUE! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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