NudeTayne Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 3 hours ago, HerbertGOAT said: A 60 page Baker Mayfield thread in the year of our lord 2022, holy moly TBH it'd be 200 pages if he was shut down early and got surgery. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, MWil23 said: Dark horse prediction is still Kareem Hunt getting dealt. 1 year left, still has value, they just drafted Ford and tendered D'Ernest Johnson. I just can't see them keeping 4 RB on their active roster and Ford is too talented to stash on a practice squad. I was watching a rerun of a Browns game the other day on NFLN and man......Kareem Hunt is darrrrrn good lol Thats all I thought the entire time knowing that he is potentially going to get traded for Ford/Johnson room. Hunt is still pretty pretty special as a runner and given a full workload again on a team like....Miami he would go back to being viewed as a borderline top 5 RB in the league given 20 touches per game. I know nobody sees him anymore in large doses splitting time with Chubb, but Hunt is still that same special RB that led the league in rushing back with the Cheifs. Edited May 23, 2022 by AkronsWitness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 8 hours ago, MWil23 said: If I'm a betting man, Cleveland will eat Baker's salary before they forfeit compensation via the draft. They actually have a decent amount of cap space this year even with Baker's $19 million on the books since Hooper's $9 million are coming off of the books post June 1. TBH, I wouldn't even rule them out of packaging Kareem Hunt in a trade and forcing a team to eat all of Baker's salary depending upon how Ford looks in the RB room with Chubb and D'Ernest Johnson. 2023 is really when the cap magic needs to happen, as they're projected $20 million over the cap, and Baker is going to be gone by then anyway. Wow, if you move Baker and a 4th round pick for a 6th in return, rolling over that now available $19M into 2023 would solve things cap wise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_W Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Seattle did waive one of their backup QBs today Levi Lewis(who!?!?) gone 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 42 minutes ago, Ryan_W said: Seattle did waive one of their backup QBs today Levi Lewis(who!?!?) gone Oh its happening 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks98 Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Seahawks only have 12M in cap space and that is without the rookie signings and DK extension so the Browns are going to have to eat cap if he comes here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 On 5/23/2022 at 12:17 PM, NudeTayne said: TBH it'd be 200 pages if he was shut down early and got surgery. Ok Baker haters only Mayfield won 6 games last year How many does deshaun a top 5 qb (Your words not mine) With the best line How much of a win increase do we see? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 answer him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 On 5/23/2022 at 6:47 AM, THE DUKE said: At this point I think Cleveland will have to lose draft compensation to move Baker to reclaim that cap space. Something like Baker + 2nd rd pick to Seattle for a 4th rd pick. I doubt that Cleveland could absolutely need him if the suspension goes more than 8 games. Gooddell must get fired for light Suspension. Besides this Deshaun fate lies with a female judge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, NudeTayne said: answer him Me and you had a great conversation about are schedule This schedule could really hurt us. Deshaun stands a 90 percent chance of facing. Brady Burrows Allen If he loses all 3 there will be 750 People calling for Deshaun to be traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soggust Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 14 hours ago, mtmmike said: Ok Baker haters only Mayfield won 6 games last year How many does deshaun a top 5 qb (Your words not mine) With the best line How much of a win increase do we see? Using PFF’s WAR metric to understand which positions teams should prioritize in the NFL draft | NFL Draft | PFF This link cites the top Win Above Replacement player in the NFL as Tom Brady with 4.18 games over replacement. Note that this is WAR (Wins above replacement), not WAA (Wins above average) which Baker is arguably much closer to than a random backup. Meaning - the gap should be much smaller. If I had to guess (without a PFF sub), I would think PFF would tell you Watson is worth about 1.5-2.5 games more than Baker Mayfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 21 minutes ago, Soggust said: Using PFF’s WAR metric to understand which positions teams should prioritize in the NFL draft | NFL Draft | PFF This link cites the top Win Above Replacement player in the NFL as Tom Brady with 4.18 games over replacement. Note that this is WAR (Wins above replacement), not WAA (Wins above average) which Baker is arguably much closer to than a random backup. Meaning - the gap should be much smaller. If I had to guess (without a PFF sub), I would think PFF would tell you Watson is worth about 1.5-2.5 games more than Baker Mayfield. So, in theory, last year the Browns likely make the playoffs with the trade-off and the year before they likely contend for the division. Watson the person is a scumbag. Watson the QB is absolutely incredibly more valuable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soggust Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 17 minutes ago, MWil23 said: So, in theory, last year the Browns likely make the playoffs with the trade-off and the year before they likely contend for the division. Watson the person is a scumbag. Watson the QB is absolutely incredibly more valuable. Again, I'm just speculating off of someone else's speculation/algorithm (WAR) so take this with a grain of salt, but yeah - I think I would be inclined to agree with this as someone who is relatively unbiased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 11 hours ago, Soggust said: Using PFF’s WAR metric to understand which positions teams should prioritize in the NFL draft | NFL Draft | PFF This link cites the top Win Above Replacement player in the NFL as Tom Brady with 4.18 games over replacement. Note that this is WAR (Wins above replacement), not WAA (Wins above average) which Baker is arguably much closer to than a random backup. Meaning - the gap should be much smaller. If I had to guess (without a PFF sub), I would think PFF would tell you Watson is worth about 1.5-2.5 games more than Baker Mayfield. So your saying 15 wine With sendejo Stewart No Johnson No delpit No Newsome Wr Higgins And dpj. That team beats Mahomes and Brady plus a additional win against lamar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soggust Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, mtmmike said: So your saying 15 wine With sendejo Stewart No Johnson No delpit No Newsome Wr Higgins And dpj. That team beats Mahomes and Brady plus a additional win against lamar. ?? The browns won 8 games last year. If Watson is 2.5 games better (best scenario), I'm suggesting the Browns win 11 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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