Sad People Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, Dodo said: Didn't want McDaniels. Looking like I was right that he'd be too enamored with his system to just do the common sense thing and run the ball when it's working. But the players melted down and were just as poor. Chandler looks like a bust and Adams, while a fantastic player, has had a negative effect on Carr so far. His involvement doesn't feel natural and the chemistry that was supposed to be there has not shown when it's needed most. A disgusting, pitiful loss that destroys both hype and patience for the fanbase. I always though this was blown outta proportion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroncoBruin Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 McDaniels continues to be a joke. Only thing making me feel better after another Hackett disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodo Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 9 minutes ago, mattyice0401 said: I always though this was blown outta proportion. To an extent absolutely. Doesn't take away that they have to live up to it. You don't make a move like that if they didn't sell you on it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullsandBroncos Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 (edited) Wonder what it would take to have Mark Davis sell the team. He's like the only owner if you don't count the packers who isn't a billionaire I think. probably would never sell because of the constant consistent revenue stream Edited September 19, 2022 by BullsandBroncos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sad People Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 Just now, Dodo said: To an extent absolutely. Doesn't take away that they have to live up to it. You don't make a move like that if they didn't sell you on it How long has it been since they were teammates in college, Like 8 years? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, BullsandBroncos said: Wonder what it would take to have Mark Davis sell the team. He's like the only owner if you don't count the packers who isn't a billionaire I think. probably would never sell because of the constant consistent revenue stream Yea he's never going to sell. He's making so much damn money off the Raiders, not to mention he purchases the Aces last year too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodo Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 1 minute ago, BullsandBroncos said: Wonder what it would take to have Mark Davis sell the team. He's like the only owner if you don't count the packers who isn't a billionaire I think. probably would never sell because of the constant consistent revenue stream He'd be a fool to sell IMO. One of the few owner-family legacies and it's not like he would have something else to fall back on. By all accounts he loves it. And no use selling in the next years when the value of teams continues to skyrocket. I WILL say that if McDaniels doesn't work out I have zero faith in him ever getting a hire right. JDR, Gruden and now McDaniels. This one has to work out or else the fanbase will start dooming even more than we already do. I'll also say this loss is the most disgusting and embarrassing one for me since the Super Bowl. But ... it is week 2. I'm already checked out but it's not impossible they could end up rebounding. Just not gonna bang that drum or wait for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDez Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 . If you saw the first half of this game it would’ve sounded impossible. Totally dominant by Oakland for 3 qtrs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 33 minutes ago, Tugboat said: More than anything though, i feel like the talent void left by Mayock and Gruden probably plays into it the most. This when you don’t have like 5 first rounders on the roster anymore you’re set up for failure. They’re playing catch up roster wise Ruggs, Conley, Leatherwood, Arnette all gone. Not on the team at all. They’re not even average players. You’ve got too many players that turned into nothing. The game today literally came down to the Cardinals higher picked players making plays to win. Mcdaniels didn’t fumble that ball that team even though talented is still trying to make up for lost players 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante9876 Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Tugboat said: As much as i think McDaniels is one of those guys who is a good Coordinator, but a poor Head Coach...i still don't know how much of this you can lay entirely at his feet. I feel like the tumultuous mess of a culture around that team probably isn't an easy thing to get a grip on. More than anything though, i feel like the talent void left by Mayock and Gruden probably plays into it the most. Like, you can make all sorts of shrewd trades and signings and have some good pieces in place...but ultimately, you have to draft more than like one or two good players over a multi-year span, or you're going to have a real gap in your team talent that is hard to backfill with finite resources in the draft and the under the salary cap. Today wasn't a talent issue. It was a coaching issue. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante9876 Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 (edited) 48 minutes ago, brownie man said: This when you don’t have like 5 first rounders on the roster anymore you’re set up for failure. They’re playing catch up roster wise Ruggs, Conley, Leatherwood, Arnette all gone. Not on the team at all. They’re not even average players. You’ve got too many players that turned into nothing. The game today literally came down to the Cardinals higher picked players making plays to win. Mcdaniels didn’t fumble that ball that team even though talented is still trying to make up for lost players He paid hunter, adams, carr, and waller. Those was his decisions. He has scored 3 in two separate halfs of football. This talent excuse aint gonna fly. If he feels carr is a good enough qb he has enough talent not to do that. Especially against that cardinals defense. Edited September 19, 2022 by dante9876 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 1 hour ago, DirtyDez said: . If you saw the first half of this game it would’ve sounded impossible. Totally dominant by Oakland for 3 qtrs. So technically worse collapse than SB52 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Dodo said: To an extent absolutely. Doesn't take away that they have to live up to it. You don't make a move like that if they didn't sell you on it I brought up a while back that they played a couple of years together nearly a decade ago and was given the "they work out together". Work out does not equal game play, and it's showing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 2 hours ago, BullsandBroncos said: Wonder what it would take to have Mark Davis sell the team. He's like the only owner if you don't count the packers who isn't a billionaire I think. probably would never sell because of the constant consistent revenue stream How do you know how much money I have? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggie. Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 Don't worry Raiders fans, Brady will sign with them in 2023 and win y'all a SB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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