2024 WR Talk

[Rich7sena]

54 minutes ago, Shylo3716 said:

After draft day, he will be the receiver that everyone will say why wasn’t he picked higher. I feel as if he will emerge in a similar fashion to George Pickens for those who did not follow Pickens throughout high school and collegiate play.

I think Pickens went where he should have gone considering his production and injury history. I don't remember if he had character concerns as a prospect, but he sure does as a pro. And, so far, he has played more like a second round pick than a first round pick.

Franklins's biggest question mark is his size. He would be light if he were 6', but he's 6'3." Weight is less of a concern for me since we seen that it isn't prohibitive for NFL success, but we don't see a lot of guys with his build in the NFL (probably because most athletes built like him are playing point guard instead). The easy comp is Robbie Chosen (Robbie Anderson), but I think he's a more put together player than him. DJ Chark also comes to mind.

[jrry32]

On 11/30/2023 at 1:15 AM, Dr A W Niloc said:

These numbers look a lot like the QB ones, making me suspect that the 3rd and 4th WR picks might turn out to be better investments than the top two.

Pik Team DraftBuzz 40Yd  Draft Player    College    PFF  Rank Dif Tall Lbs

2nd Ariz  1st 94.0 4.39  Marvin Harrison Ohio St    2nd   5th -36 6'4" 205
10. T.B.  2nd 92.0 4.40  Malik Nabers    LSU        8th  13th  +2 6"0" 200
17. Cinc  4th 88.2 4.45  Rome Odunze     Washington  10   3rd -20 6'3" 215
18. Buff  9th 87.0 4.45  Keon Coleman    Florida St  20   4th -59 6'4" 215
19. N.O. 15th 85.3 4.50  Adonai Mitchell Texas       29   7th  +6 6'4" 196
31. K.C.  5th 88.0 4.30  Emeka Egbuka    Ohio St     23   5th -36 6'1" 206
33. Crla  7th 87.4 4.29  Xavier Worthy   Texas       36   7th  +6 6'1" 172
54. Pitt  8th 87.1 4.35  Troy Franklin   Oregon      62   6th -53 6'3" 187
57. Dall 14th 85.4 4.47  Brian Thomas Jr LSU         69  13th  +2 6'4" 205
61. Balt 23rd 82.1 4.48  Devontez Walker N Crla     100  33rd -18 6'3" 200
62. Detr 20th 83.5 4.37  Roman Wilson    Michigan   129   2nd -51 6'0" 192
68. Chic 11th 85.8 4.59  Ladd McConkey   Georgia     60   1st -57 6'0" 185
69. NYGs  3rd 88.5 4.29  Xavier Legette  S Crla      32  57th +51 6'3" 227
73. Jets 12th 85.6 4.48  Ja’Lynn Polk    Wash        39   3rd -20 6'2" 204
80. Indi 17th 84.2 4.45  Tory Horton     Colrdo St  103   102 Evn 6'2" 190
90. Jkvl 19th 83.6 4.38  Jalen McMillan  Wash       122   3rd -20 6'1" 192
99. N.E. 35th 80.4 4.49  Will Sheppard   Vanderbilt WR17  114 +95 6'3" 198
107 Atla 24th 82.0 4.38  JM Sturdivant   UCLA        97  36th -30 6'3" 205
123 S.F. 13th 85.6 4.46  Malachi Corley  W Kentucky  61  78th -36 5'11 210
129 Clev 22nd 82.6 4.50  Jamari Thrash   Louisville 133  15th -41 6'1" 185
133 NYGs 16th 84.8 4.38  Brenden Rice    USC         95  37th +16 6'3" 210
135 Wash 27th 81.5 4.41  Ainias Smith    Texas A&M  WR22 39th  +2 5'10 200
148 Tenn 55th 74.0 4.43  Tahj Washington USC        WR23 37th +16 5'10 175
165 Miam 29th 81.1 4.40  Jacob Cowing    Arizona    WR24 14th -46 5'11 175
184 Atla ---- ---- 4.60  Jayden Thomas   Notre Dame WR25 16th -45 6'1" 220
204 LACh ---- ---- 4.48  Colbie Young    Miami (FL) WR26 35th -15 6'4" 215
211 Hous  6th 87.5 4.42  Johnny Wilson   Florida St  51   4th -59 6'7" 237
223 K.C. ---- ---- 4.88  Javon Baker     UCF        WR28 66th +12 6'0" 180

Key

Pik = Pro Football Network mock draft position.
Team = Anticipated NFL drafter.
DraftBuzz = Rank and Rating from Draft Buzz.
40Yd = 40 Yard Dash time.
PFF = PFF power ranking or, if "WR##", order taken in mock draft.
Rank = Rank of alma mater.
Dif = Rank of alma mater minus average opponent ranking (SOS).
Tall = Height.
LBs = Weight in pounds.

 

Welp, we all know the Rams are drafting Ladd McHonkey. 

[CWood21]

On 11/29/2023 at 8:51 AM, BetterCallSaul said:

Yeah I have questions about Odunze. He reminds me way too much of Laquon Treadwell. Yeah he can win some jump balls and is a threat in the red zone, but he's not a very sudden player, doesn't get a lot of separation, and isn't a ht/wt/spd freak either. He has 1 really good ability, but I don't expect him to be a dynamic player between the 20's.

Talk about a terrible take.  Treadwell was unbelievably slow on tape, and his Combine showed that.  Treadwell lived off being able to out physical opposing DBs.  That's not Odunze's game.  Like at all.

[BetterCallSaul]

58 minutes ago, CWood21 said:

Talk about a terrible take.  Treadwell was unbelievably slow on tape, and his Combine showed that.  Treadwell lived off being able to out physical opposing DBs.  That's not Odunze's game.  Like at all.

Don’t see how he is different. Odunze is definitely gonna be a low 4.5 guy IMO. I have watched a lot of Rome & he reminds me of Laquon/Jaelen Strong. 1-trick ponies. Rome rarely finds himself open underneath and especially rare is him working the intermediate, which is 90% of the NFL. And he isn’t a good enough athlete to consistently stack NFL CB’s deep in man-man. 

[CWood21]

3 hours ago, BetterCallSaul said:

Don’t see how he is different. Odunze is definitely gonna be a low 4.5 guy IMO. I have watched a lot of Rome & he reminds me of Laquon/Jaelen Strong. 1-trick ponies. Rome rarely finds himself open underneath and especially rare is him working the intermediate, which is 90% of the NFL. And he isn’t a good enough athlete to consistently stack NFL CB’s deep in man-man. 

Treadwell was clunky as hell.  There was no movement skills at all.  He was a basketball player playing football.

[INbengalfan]

On 11/30/2023 at 12:06 PM, Rich7sena said:

I think Pickens went where he should have gone considering his production and injury history. I don't remember if he had character concerns as a prospect, but he sure does as a pro. And, so far, he has played more like a second round pick than a first round pick.

Franklins's biggest question mark is his size. He would be light if he were 6', but he's 6'3." Weight is less of a concern for me since we seen that it isn't prohibitive for NFL success, but we don't see a lot of guys with his build in the NFL (probably because most athletes built like him are playing point guard instead). The easy comp is Robbie Chosen (Robbie Anderson), but I think he's a more put together player than him. DJ Chark also comes to mind.

He absolutely had character concerns at Georgia.  Plenty of personal fouls, losing his cool on-field, and overall stupidity.  As a georgia and Bengals fan, I didn't want him....at all.  He also had a few dust-ups with teammates that Kirby managed to sweep under the rug.  Having watched Carl Pickens throw tantrums in Cincy, it wasn't hard to imagine his kid being an entitled punk with bigger outbursts.

[NYRaider]

Can someone give me NFL comparisons for the top WR's in this class?

[DirtyDez]

1 hour ago, NYRaider said:

Can someone give me NFL comparisons for the top WR's in this class?

Marv = Chase  

Nabers = Jefferson

Odunze = Wayne 

[Rich7sena]

10 hours ago, NYRaider said:

Can someone give me NFL comparisons for the top WR's in this class?

Marvin Harrison: AJ Green - Thin but plays strong, great ball skills and body control, fast, very polished.

Malik Nabers: Terry McLaurin - Well built, strong, not overly long, great at stacking defenders and ball tracking.

Rome Odunze: Courtland Sutton - Good size, not athletically overwhelming, good ball skills.

Troy Franklin: Marvin Jones - Thin, fast, quick, good ball skills.

 

Edited December 5, 2023 by Rich7sena

[NYRaider]

4 minutes ago, Rich7sena said:

Marvin Harrison: AJ Green - Thin but plays strong, great ball skills and body control, fast, very polished.

Malik Nabers: Terry McLaurin - Well built, strong, not overly long, great at stacking defenders and ball tracking.

Rome Odunze: Courtland Sutton - Good size, not athletically overwhelming, good ball skills.

Troy Franklin: Marvin Jones - Thin, fast, quick, good ball skills.

 

I thought it was a great WR class and we're getting Terry, Sutton and Marvin...

[Rich7sena]

2 minutes ago, NYRaider said:

I thought it was a great WR class and we're getting Terry, Sutton and Marvin...

First, McLaurin is an excellent receiver. Second, I'm gesturing more toward physical archetypes and skillset than production or career comparisons. Last, I left out Coleman, who I think is a top prospect, but I do not have a comp for him yet.

[DM316]

13 minutes ago, Rich7sena said:

First, McLaurin is an excellent receiver. Second, I'm gesturing more toward physical archetypes and skillset than production or career comparisons. Last, I left out Coleman, who I think is a top prospect, but I do not have a comp for him yet.

Tee Higgins

[Rich7sena]

2 minutes ago, DM316 said:

Tee Higgins

I feel like Coleman is more explosive and an all around better athlete than Higgins. Higgins wins with good movement skills for his size, length, and ball skills. I think Coleman wins more with speed, quickness, and size. If I had to give him a comp today, it would be Kenny Britt.

[Scoundrel]

10 hours ago, DirtyDez said:

Marv = Chase  

Nabers = Jefferson

Odunze = Wayne 

Chase is 6’….

[DM316]

46 minutes ago, Rich7sena said:

I feel like Coleman is more explosive and an all around better athlete than Higgins. Higgins wins with good movement skills for his size, length, and ball skills. I think Coleman wins more with speed, quickness, and size. If I had to give him a comp today, it would be Kenny Britt.

Britt more athletic than Higgins? Coleman is the same alpha as Higgins on contested catches. I'm an FSU fan, I've watched plenty .... he is more explosive than Higgins but I'm not willing to lower the bar to Britt for a comp is all. I don't really see any comp that could be closer (keep in mind it doesn't have to be 1 of 1).