TedLavie Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 8 hours ago, Chiefer said: How would you rank these guys? Leggette, Wilson, Polk, Franklin, Corley, Coleman, Worthy, Burton, Pearsall, McConkey Franklin McConkey ----- Leggette Pearsall Worthy Burton Polk ----- Wilson Coleman Corley The last three I wouldn't want for the Chiefs anyway as they wouldn't be good fits 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teen Girl Squad Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 On 4/15/2024 at 10:20 AM, Chiefer said: They keep saying Thomas is MVS. I’m not really seeing it. Even then MVS would actually be a good player if he knew how to catch the football. I’ve never seen a WR fight a catchable ball more in my entire life. Thomas' catch rate is pretty meh and according to thier metrics and he had one of the highest 'catchable pass' rates of any receiver in the country. Thats why they made the MVS comp in the first place. Mind you, I still think Thomas is a good prospect, just in the mid first round, blue chip area of the draft. Once we get to the "second round prospects" tier after picks 20-25, then I'm fine wiht him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 On 4/15/2024 at 8:51 PM, Chiefer said: How would you rank these guys? Leggette, Wilson, Polk, Franklin, Corley, Coleman, Worthy, Burton, Pearsall, McConkey Keon Coleman- could be a superstar big slot. Severely underrated athleticism. He's personally my WR5 Ladd McConkey- instant solid X receiver with potential to be more Xavier Legette- high ceiling low floor; could be above average X receiver Malachi Corley- not an X receiver, but elite with the ball in his hands. Could be similar to what you'd like Kadarius Toney to actually be and not just a gadget guy Roman Wilson- silky smooth in every aspect. He's a solid #2 in the NFL with a high floor Ricky Pearsall- another solid #2 with burner potential Jermaine Burton- would be higher if he wasn't a headcase. Great speed, elite hands, solid in literally every aspect. You've gotta be able to manage the personality though Troy Franklin- he's so skinny. To me, he's Darius Slayton at his ceiling, which is good, but not great Xavier Worthy- I don't know if he's got anything other than speed. He's like 165 pounds. I still have not actually watched Ja'Lynn Polk more than what I saw on broadcast. From that, he'd be around 5-6 for me, but didn't feel fair to rank him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 On 4/15/2024 at 8:51 PM, Chiefer said: How would you rank these guys? Leggette, Wilson, Polk, Franklin, Corley, Coleman, Worthy, Burton, Pearsall, McConkey 1. MHJ 2. Malik Nabers 3. Rome Odunze 4. BT jr 5. Adonai Mitchell 6. Ladd McConkey 7. Keon Coleman 8. Rickie Pearsall 9. Xavier Legette 10. Roman Wilson 11. Johnny Wilson 12. JaLynn Polk 13. Xavier Worthy 14. Javon Baker 15. Devontez Walker 16. Troy Franklin 17. Malachi Corley 18. Malik Washington 19. Jamari Thrash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 2 hours ago, minutemancl said: Keon Coleman- could be a superstar big slot. Severely underrated athleticism. He's personally my WR5 Ladd McConkey- instant solid X receiver with potential to be more Xavier Legette- high ceiling low floor; could be above average X receiver Malachi Corley- not an X receiver, but elite with the ball in his hands. Could be similar to what you'd like Kadarius Toney to actually be and not just a gadget guy Roman Wilson- silky smooth in every aspect. He's a solid #2 in the NFL with a high floor Ricky Pearsall- another solid #2 with burner potential Jermaine Burton- would be higher if he wasn't a headcase. Great speed, elite hands, solid in literally every aspect. You've gotta be able to manage the personality though Troy Franklin- he's so skinny. To me, he's Darius Slayton at his ceiling, which is good, but not great Xavier Worthy- I don't know if he's got anything other than speed. He's like 165 pounds. I still have not actually watched Ja'Lynn Polk more than what I saw on broadcast. From that, he'd be around 5-6 for me, but didn't feel fair to rank him. Your evals are definitely different than mine lol Coleman, Alshon Jeffery/Allen Robinson type McConkey, a bigger Wes Welker/Julian Edelman with a good release Legette, highest ceiling after the top 5, could really play anything, I think what he becomes will in large part depend on the system he's in and who's throwing him the ball, low end comp being Jonathan Mingo Malachi Corley - gadget player, definitely useful, but I would take him until at least the 80s Roman Wilson - Well rounded slot type of guy, can become a 1 of 3 guy who will consistently put up #2 numbers Pearsall, athletic bigger slot guy, don't see him as a number 1, but he could top 1000 yards when he's not the main guy Burton, Not touching with a 39.5' pole Troy Franklin - Todd Pinkston, 20 years later Xavier Worthy - Just the next undersized overhyped guy who 40 go brrr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebrick Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Worthy is an excellent route runner. A team may have to scheme him a free release( al'la Tyreek Hill) but he can be a game changer. If a team expects him to just beat press coverage then he will fail. It would also be criminal to having him running just flies, posts and flags. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 47 minutes ago, Danger said: Your evals are definitely different than mine lol Coleman, Alshon Jeffery/Allen Robinson type McConkey, a bigger Wes Welker/Julian Edelman with a good release Disagree hard on these two. Coleman is 100% a slot and McConkey is 100% an outside receiver. Coleman has a lot of trouble creating separation and getting open; there have been a lot of players like him come out of the draft, and if any of them found success, it was in the slot. Guys like Cooper Kupp, Rashee Rice fit this build. McConkey will definitely get some slot reps and get moved around, but he should be taking at least 60% of his snaps outside. He's an X or Y receiver all day. His win percentage on big boy routes like outs and his vertical route sell are incredible. He's not a shifty, lunchpail, gritty, quick slot like an initial impression of him would suggest. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 17 minutes ago, minutemancl said: Disagree hard on these two. Coleman is 100% a slot and McConkey is 100% an outside receiver. Coleman has a lot of trouble creating separation and getting open; there have been a lot of players like him come out of the draft, and if any of them found success, it was in the slot. Guys like Cooper Kupp, Rashee Rice fit this build. McConkey will definitely get some slot reps and get moved around, but he should be taking at least 60% of his snaps outside. He's an X or Y receiver all day. His win percentage on big boy routes like outs and his vertical route sell are incredible. He's not a shifty, lunchpail, gritty, quick slot like an initial impression of him would suggest. https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Ladd-McConkey-WR-Georgia Quote Ladd McConkey's skill set projects well at the next level. His route precision, ball tracking, and quickness off the line are standout traits. Despite his size, he plays with an edge, showing promise as a slot receiver and potential on special teams. https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Keon-Coleman-WR-MichiganState Quote Keon Coleman has positioned himself prominently as one of the top WRs in the 2024 NFL Draft. Standing at 6’4″ and weighing 215 pounds, he boasts a formidable physical presence on the field. His catch mechanics, characterized by an ability to naturally box out defenders and that "alpha" catch-point instinct, set him apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 3 minutes ago, Danger said: https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Ladd-McConkey-WR-Georgia https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Keon-Coleman-WR-MichiganState Watch those please. I don't really trust evals from sites like that where people aren't putting their names on the evaluations. "Despite his size". Ladd is literally the exact same height and weight, and has the same 40 time, broad, and vert, as Garrett Wilson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 (edited) 3 hours ago, minutemancl said: "Despite his size". Ladd is literally the exact same height and weight, and has the same 40 time, broad, and vert, as Garrett Wilson. And?, lets not play the association game, he was a nice little player for UGA but some of you are really breaking your necks to make this guys out to be better than he is. Some of you are trying to make him an outside guy when people don't factor in it may be an chance where they may be matched up against a team's #1 corner and I don't think he can survive in this league having to make a living beating guys bigger, faster, stronger veterans who know the route you are about to run by your alignment. You guys are making it seem like its a put down to have him operate out of the slot (which is where his skillset fits best). Edited April 17 by MSURacerDT55 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rich7sena Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 (edited) 4 hours ago, Chiefer said: I have been putting together some comps recently. Here are mine an no particular ranking: Marvin Harrison Jr. -> AJ Green Malik Nabers -> Terry McLaurin, Brandon Aiyuk, Pierre Garcon Rome Odunze -> Michael Pittman, Courtland Sutton Keon Coleman -> Michael Thomas, Allen Robinson Brian Thomas -> Martavis Bryant Adonai Mitchell -> DeVante Parker Xavier Worthy -> Marquise Brown, Calvin Ridley Troy Franklin -> Marvin Jones, Robbie Anderson, DJ Chark JaLynn Polk -> Jakobi Meyers Edited April 18 by Rich7sena 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nicfre2011 Posted April 18 Author Share Posted April 18 5 hours ago, Chiefer said: Ahhh, draft season....gotta love it! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tugboat Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 16 hours ago, Chiefer said: Well that's a heck of a shot out of the blue. I hadn't heard a thing about this until now. Methinks somebody wants him to fall a bit in the draft. 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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