Chili Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 10 hours ago, Mr Bad Example said: That's only because no one has ever tried. Didn't the Packers have 3 fullbacks on the roster at one point? John Kuhn, Korey Hall and Quinn Johnson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Damn. I liked Jordan Jones highlights, thought he had something to offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Chili said: Damn. I liked Jordan Jones highlights, thought he had something to offer. IMO no chance... extremely fun to watch a 250 lbs play like 180 lbs when they're more athletic than the competition juking everyone but all that stops working when they're just as athletic or more athletic than you, and he'd need to get a lot more physical as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 2 hours ago, {Family Ghost} said: Ha .. funny. I added the "hope he lands on his feet somewhere" to my post as well. Is he any good? I've never seen him play...like ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Leader Posted August 2, 2020 Author Share Posted August 2, 2020 Brian Gutekunst - “I think around here, we’ve always put the reliability, the dependability factor as a major part of our evaluation process, and this year more so than any. For us to accomplish the things we want to accomplish this season, guys are going to have to make the right choices when they leave the building. There’s no doubt about it. I’ve always believed football is the ultimate team game, and this year more so than ever. It’s going to be dependent on how each one of us, not just the players but everybody in our building, makes goo choices when they leave the building. “At the same time, we’re going to have positive tests. This virus that we’re dealing with, we’re going to have that, and it’s not going to always be, just because someone gets it, be their fault. So the dependability, the availability of players, the teams that do that and overcome that and rise to the challenge are going to be the ones who are left standing.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 On 7/31/2020 at 6:49 PM, SteelKing728 said: Is he any good? I've never seen him play...like ever. None of us have either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 If Gutey is being truthful, it raises a question that is certainly key to the 2020 season: Does our GM really feel okay with our current WR group? If not, what does he plan to do about it a month before the season (hopefully) starts? Few points: 1. Sources said the Packers were in the mix during last year's trade deadline for a WR, suggesting Gutey knew/felt there was a problem at WR. 2. This off-season, the Packers were the runner-up to landing the top FA WR -- Emmanuel Sanders, who, if you believe Sanders, got a competitive offer from GB (probably around $9-10m AAV), but chose NO because of the dome/weather, family and because GB wanted him to sign a 2-year deal instead of a 1-year contract. Still, this again points to Gutey acknowledging the lack of top-level at WR and trying to do something about it. However, very similar to the Allen Robinson situation, we didn't get our guy. 3. Gutey signs Funchess. Not a major move, but still an huge upgrade over Allison (our one WR FA loss) and whether he ended up the No. 2 or not, statistically, Funchess would have probably been our No. 2, or at worst, No. 3 at the start of the season. This seemingly was Gute's consolation prize after missing out on Sanders, and not a bad grab given how poor the FA WR market was this year. Whether it upgraded our WR core just a little or a lot, it was still an upgrade (until the opt-out). 4. During the 1st round of the draft, there is speculation that when GB moved up to 26 (deal with Miami), the guy they wanted wasn't Love, but Brandon Aiyuk. Minn was on the clock at 25 and GB knew they weren't going WR (having just picked Jefferson at 22) and also knew Minn wouldn't be a trade candidate, so some think (I am one of them) that GB made the deal with Miami while Minn was still on the clock, with the thinking that Minn would make a pick, leaving Aiyuk as the pick for GB. Instead, SF jumped us, made the pick, and Gutey went with Love, later saying that he had intel that other teams wanted to move up to grab Love (although, after the draft there was no information that surfaced supporting that another team was attempting to move up for Love, so idk...). Still think Aiyuk was 1(A) at 26, because again, Gutey felt WR needed a play-maker after missing out on Sanders in FA. 5. The tweet above. Gutey apparently tells King he wanted to move up in the 2nd round to grab 1 of 2 WRs still left on the board. This was probably Pittman or Claypool because Mims was there and we could have easily traded up a few spots for him, but we stayed put. Regardless, this talk from Gute, again if truthful, reinforces the position that he wanted to upgrade the WR group (even after signing Funchess). Now, fast-forward to present. Funchess is gone and we are back to status quo: Adams...........Lazard, MVS, EQ....Kumerow, and the rest. Basically, the exact same crew and we are back to talking about "well Lazard is going to be better," "well, EQ is back and he looked good 2 years ago in a few games," "well, it's year 3 for MVS, look out." Sure, maybe one or more of those things happen (we sure better hope so or we're really screwed), but the fact remains, since mid-last year to present, Gute has at least given the appearance of wanting/trying to upgrade this unit, both during FA and possibly through the first 2 rounds of the draft if picks had fallen a little differently. Yet, now Gutey seemingly is back to the typical coach-speak of "we like our guys, " "next man up," and "we like the WR group" etc. etc. even after Funchess's opt-out. Is that true? Is Gutey really going to go into the season without another WR move? It'll be interesting to see whether he "tries" again to add talent to the position or simply gives up and goes with the group as is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 but players from other teams are gone too. Its gonna be the war of attrition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachbuns Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 (edited) Agree ... Minnesota and Chicago have lost a better player than Funchess. Edited August 3, 2020 by coachbuns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JQ1 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 (edited) If Gutekunst brings another WR in I’d say it’s more a reflection of his commitment to continue to churn the roster rather than anything. Edited August 3, 2020 by JQ1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathstar Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 It’s hard to say, based on their reactions on draft night, that Gute and LaFleur didn’t get their guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spilltray Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 10 hours ago, packfanfb said: If Gutey is being truthful, it raises a question that is certainly key to the 2020 season: Does our GM really feel okay with our current WR group? If not, what does he plan to do about it a month before the season (hopefully) starts? Few points: 1. Sources said the Packers were in the mix during last year's trade deadline for a WR, suggesting Gutey knew/felt there was a problem at WR. 2. This off-season, the Packers were the runner-up to landing the top FA WR -- Emmanuel Sanders, who, if you believe Sanders, got a competitive offer from GB (probably around $9-10m AAV), but chose NO because of the dome/weather, family and because GB wanted him to sign a 2-year deal instead of a 1-year contract. Still, this again points to Gutey acknowledging the lack of top-level at WR and trying to do something about it. However, very similar to the Allen Robinson situation, we didn't get our guy. 3. Gutey signs Funchess. Not a major move, but still an huge upgrade over Allison (our one WR FA loss) and whether he ended up the No. 2 or not, statistically, Funchess would have probably been our No. 2, or at worst, No. 3 at the start of the season. This seemingly was Gute's consolation prize after missing out on Sanders, and not a bad grab given how poor the FA WR market was this year. Whether it upgraded our WR core just a little or a lot, it was still an upgrade (until the opt-out). 4. During the 1st round of the draft, there is speculation that when GB moved up to 26 (deal with Miami), the guy they wanted wasn't Love, but Brandon Aiyuk. Minn was on the clock at 25 and GB knew they weren't going WR (having just picked Jefferson at 22) and also knew Minn wouldn't be a trade candidate, so some think (I am one of them) that GB made the deal with Miami while Minn was still on the clock, with the thinking that Minn would make a pick, leaving Aiyuk as the pick for GB. Instead, SF jumped us, made the pick, and Gutey went with Love, later saying that he had intel that other teams wanted to move up to grab Love (although, after the draft there was no information that surfaced supporting that another team was attempting to move up for Love, so idk...). Still think Aiyuk was 1(A) at 26, because again, Gutey felt WR needed a play-maker after missing out on Sanders in FA. 5. The tweet above. Gutey apparently tells King he wanted to move up in the 2nd round to grab 1 of 2 WRs still left on the board. This was probably Pittman or Claypool because Mims was there and we could have easily traded up a few spots for him, but we stayed put. Regardless, this talk from Gute, again if truthful, reinforces the position that he wanted to upgrade the WR group (even after signing Funchess). Now, fast-forward to present. Funchess is gone and we are back to status quo: Adams...........Lazard, MVS, EQ....Kumerow, and the rest. Basically, the exact same crew and we are back to talking about "well Lazard is going to be better," "well, EQ is back and he looked good 2 years ago in a few games," "well, it's year 3 for MVS, look out." Sure, maybe one or more of those things happen (we sure better hope so or we're really screwed), but the fact remains, since mid-last year to present, Gute has at least given the appearance of wanting/trying to upgrade this unit, both during FA and possibly through the first 2 rounds of the draft if picks had fallen a little differently. Yet, now Gutey seemingly is back to the typical coach-speak of "we like our guys, " "next man up," and "we like the WR group" etc. etc. even after Funchess's opt-out. Is that true? Is Gutey really going to go into the season without another WR move? It'll be interesting to see whether he "tries" again to add talent to the position or simply gives up and goes with the group as is. I buy all of that except #4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 22 minutes ago, spilltray said: I buy all of that except #4. Certainly the part with the most speculation, but I think the Niners got us yet again. We'll never know either way. Maybe it was Love all along but it actually helps me justify the pick more if I believe it my way - that we wanted Aiyuk and then had to go plan B - lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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