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1 hour ago, packfanfb said:

This is hyperbole. No one is saying the sky is falling. We lost one game on the road to a good team, it'll happen. We're not going 16-0 or 15-1. That being said, do you think this roster is good enough to make/win the SB? If yes, fine, you shouldn't want a move. If no, then you should want a move, unless you don't care about winning it all. 

This has nothing to do with "whining." Some people think adding a top WR or a guy like Watt could be the difference between going 12-4 and losing in the playoffs vs. 13-3 and winning a SB. Is it stupid to think that way?

We are better than last year. Last year we went to the NFC championship game. 
 

BTW you’ve repeatedly said the GM of a team that has gone 18-5 since hiring his coach doesn’t want to win. So I call that whining.

1 hour ago, AustrianPacker said:

I know what you mean, but I find it understandable that some are frustrated. We had and have one of the best QBs and were one game away from the SB. Rodgers doesn´t have many years left and nobody knows if Love will going to be the answer after him. So we should have tried to do everything to get to a SB with Rodgers, even if we suck after him for some seasons. Just on SB with Rodgers seems just such a waste. 

This is whining. Literally two QBs in the league have won more than one super bowl. If this is how you choose to express your fandom that’s fine, but it doesn’t make it more than whining.

[Pick6byWoodson]

22 hours ago, AlexGreen#20 said:

The cap uncertainty and the intra-division trade aspect kinda kills this, but the Vikings trade that makes the most sense at this point is a 3rd round pick for Harrison Smith. 

No dead money in 2021 if you cut him or trade him in the offseason. Or you keep him for 2021 and pick up your comp pick, but that makes the salary cap tough. 

Upgrading Raven Greene to Harrison Smith would really really help out this defense.

 

 

Earl Thomas is still available right? What's the deal with him, something's gotta be going on beyond just a fight with a teammate. Sure would be nice to upgrade from Raven Greene to Earl Thomas if not Harrison Smith.

[AlexGreen#20]

1 hour ago, Pick6byWoodson said:

Earl Thomas is still available right? What's the deal with him, something's gotta be going on beyond just a fight with a teammate. Sure would be nice to upgrade from Raven Greene to Earl Thomas if not Harrison Smith.

He's nuts

He doesn't want to play for cheap on a short term deal apparently

He only wants to play for teams running a lot of single high, which isn't us. 

[Leader]

Field Yates -   With one catch tonight, Larry Fitzgerald will join Jerry Rice as the only players in NFL history with 1,400 career catches. Fitz has at least 55 catches and 725 yards in every year of his career and has missed a total of 6 games in 17 seasons. One of the best ever.

[mikemike778]

On 10/24/2020 at 2:36 PM, AustrianPacker said:

I know what you mean, but I find it understandable that some are frustrated. We had and have one of the best QBs and were one game away from the SB. Rodgers doesn´t have many years left and nobody knows if Love will going to be the answer after him. So we should have tried to do everything to get to a SB with Rodgers, even if we suck after him for some seasons. Just on SB with Rodgers seems just such a waste. 

OK but when is 'after Rodgers'

He wants to play till he is 40. If he plays like he did in the first 4 games or wins a super bowl then he isn't going anywhere in 2 years. Gute needs to put a strong team every year. If 2020 was definitely Rodgers final year then yes agree you put all your chips in. 

[Erhnam]

1 hour ago, Leader said:

Field Yates -   With one catch tonight, Larry Fitzgerald will join Jerry Rice as the only players in NFL history with 1,400 career catches. Fitz has at least 55 catches and 725 yards in every year of his career and has missed a total of 6 games in 17 seasons. One of the best ever.

Too bad he beat up his baby mama.  That gets conveniently ignored by the media.

[Uffdaswede]

On 10/21/2020 at 2:32 AM, Kepler said:

It's probably ******

Yep... definitely snat*h

Good call. Incog Asterisk Rule applies here.

[gopackgo972]

1 hour ago, Erhnam said:

Too bad he beat up his baby mama.  That gets conveniently ignored by the media.

Okay 12 years ago he was accused by her.

 

since then he’s done more for society than you will ever do. 

[MacReady]

1 hour ago, YaddaHolla said:

Okay 12 years ago he was accused by her.

 

since then he’s done more for society than you will ever do. 

I don't know, he's got one post on Footballsfuture.com.  How many posts does Fitzgerald have?

I really didn't know about that accusation against Larry though.  That's a surprise to me. 

[pacman5252]

22 hours ago, mikemike778 said:

OK but when is 'after Rodgers'

He wants to play till he is 40. If he plays like he did in the first 4 games or wins a super bowl then he isn't going anywhere in 2 years. Gute needs to put a strong team every year. If 2020 was definitely Rodgers final year then yes agree you put all your chips in. 

If Rodgers regresses to last year and our roster is capped out and older, 2 years from now we could move on. Rosters fall apart quick MN and Dallas went from high end contenders to rebuild in 2 years. Even this offseason we’re going to make a few tough moves 

[MacReady]

5 minutes ago, pacman5252 said:

If Rodgers regresses to last year and our roster is capped out and older, 2 years from now we could move on. Rosters fall apart quick MN and Dallas went from high end contenders to rebuild in 2 years. Even this offseason we’re going to make a few tough moves 

You know why those rosters fell apart quick? 

Because they do things the Packers don't do. 

In the past 7 years, the Vikings have used a first round pick on:

An off-ball LB (9th overall)
Two WR (22nd and 23rd overall)
A center (18th overall)

They paid their QB way too much money.  After paying their QB way too much money, they've used way too much of their draft capital and way too much of their cap space on signing/re-signing offensive talent around him and they've completely neglected their defense.  Add the fact that they can't figure out how to coach or how to draft or how to sign their OL and you get the Vikings.

Same thing with the Cowboys.  The Cowboys used a first round pick on a receiver when they just traded a first round pick for Cooper AND paid Cooper a massive contract, but they also had Gallup. 

In the past 8 years,

WR (17th overall)
Off ball LB (19th overall)
RB (4th overall)
G (16th overall
C (31st overall)

Both those teams put extreme emphasis on the least important positions in football.  And those positions still suck.

Look at the Packers offensive line.  Two modest free agent additions, but then the rest are all 2nd-7th round picks.  Bakhtiari is the best pass blocking LT in football.  Elgton Jenkins is going to get himself a couple all-pros most likely.  Corey Linsley is playing like the best center in football. 

Even when teams hit on WR like Jefferson and Lamb.  Okay, so?  The Cowboys had one win even before Dak got hurt and they were putting up crazy amounts of points.
The Vikings are still at only one win even with Jefferson playing extremely well.

As frustrating as our defense is, we are giving up 5.5 less points per game than the Vikings and a full touchdown less than the Cowboys. 

They spread their cap space thin each and every year by loading up each and every year and each and every year they get a bunch of players not playing for new contracts and playing for themselves.  Once the chips are down, it's tough to get motivated to be a team player when you're making a million dollars per game check. 

As long as the current power structure remains in place, the Green Bay Packers will never be a tanker type team.  They will never fall to that top 5 pick threshold.  Even in McCarthy's last year the Packers had 6 wins and a tie, and they were a couple boneheaded plays away from being at that 8 win threshold.

Then think back to 2017.  Rodgers missed a bunch of games, still 7 wins. 

Any draft and develop team that knows how to coach its front 7, how to develop their front 7, will not bottom out barring insane amounts of injuries. 

 

[packfanfb]

 Add the Browns to the WR-trade mix.

[packfanfb]

For the DVOA peeps out there. 

[Leader]

NY Post -  Odell Beckham’s knee injury is as bad as the Cleveland Browns feared. The Browns confirmed that Beckham has a torn ACL and his 2020 NFL season is over.

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GB won't have to worry about Deebo Samuel