NFLGURU Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Leader said: Wow. You can put a fork in Gruden. He's done. Nobody associated with the NFL or TV will hire him. He'll surface somewhere. It might take some time, but he'll be back in some capacity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatch Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, NFLGURU said: He'll surface somewhere. It might take some time, but he'll be back in some capacity. Very doubtful. Times have changed and his goose is cooked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted October 12, 2021 Author Share Posted October 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, NFLGURU said: He'll surface somewhere. It might take some time, but he'll be back in some capacity. I mean....he was across the board bad....and I've not even read the emails yet. But he was racist, sexist, homophobic....he went there on all of it. HIs buddy Bruce Allen cant be feeling too good tonight either. They were transferring pics of topless Washington cheerleaders......while Allen worked for the team. I mean.....come on. I dont think a High School could hire Gruden to be its football coach at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLGURU Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Leader said: I mean....he was across the board bad....and I've not even read the emails yet. But he was racist, sexist, homophobic....he went there on all of it. HIs buddy Bruce Allen cant be feeling too good tonight either. They were transferring pics of topless Washington cheerleaders......while Allen worked for the team. I mean.....come on. I dont think a High School could hire Gruden to be its football coach at this point. Its a hot topic right now. Gruden will lay low for a while, he'll be back maybe as a college coordinator, or a pregame TV guy. Micheal Vick killed dogs and he's on FS1. Don't be a prisoner of the moment, what Gruden did 10 years ago was bad, but he was a great broadcaster and a good coach. Somebody will hire this guy, it won't be soon, but they will. Watch. Edited October 12, 2021 by NFLGURU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted October 12, 2021 Author Share Posted October 12, 2021 13 minutes ago, NFLGURU said: Don't be a prisoner of the moment, what Gruden did 10 years ago was bad, but he was a great broadcaster and a good coach. And what makes you think these "moments" represent ten year old attitudes and not those that he woke up with this morning and would have felt free to express to certain friends if the cat hadnt gotten out of the bag? He pissed on just about everybody and every possible group. This is gonna follow him like a dark cloud. He'll never escape its shadow....nor should he till he shows true remorse and/or contrition. He might be a good broadcaster and coach but he's a terrible human being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAH1223 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 35 minutes ago, Leader said: I mean....he was across the board bad....and I've not even read the emails yet. But he was racist, sexist, homophobic....he went there on all of it. HIs buddy Bruce Allen cant be feeling too good tonight either. They were transferring pics of topless Washington cheerleaders......while Allen worked for the team. I mean.....come on. I dont think a High School could hire Gruden to be its football coach at this point. The stories out of Ashburn, VA are something else. To think, these e-mails wouldn't have surfaced if Washington Football was never investigated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLGURU Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Leader said: And what makes you think these "moments" represent ten year old attitudes and not those that he woke up with this morning and would have felt free to express to certain friends if the cat hadnt gotten out of the bag? He pissed on just about everybody and every possible group. This is gonna follow him like a dark cloud. He'll never escape its shadow....nor should he till he shows true remorse and/or contrition. He might be a good broadcaster and coach but he's a terrible human being. I dont know how he feels about things today. He has apologized for his actions several times. What I do know is that he did wake up this morning with the only known homosexual in the NFL on his team. He could have cut him in training camp if he wanted to. He didnt. I'm not saying he didn't make mistakes. He clearly did. Edited October 12, 2021 by NFLGURU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACKRULE Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, Leader said: And what makes you think these "moments" represent ten year old attitudes and not those that he woke up with this morning and would have felt free to express to certain friends if the cat hadnt gotten out of the bag? He pissed on just about everybody and every possible group. This is gonna follow him like a dark cloud. He'll never escape its shadow....nor should he till he shows true remorse and/or contrition. He might be a good broadcaster and coach but he's a terrible human being. Gotta love the generation of judgment. We all have done this and worse. Do t care if he gets hired again or not but why must he show anyone anything to get any chance again. We are all no different. We all think we are good and really we are not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siman08/OH Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 13 minutes ago, PACKRULE said: Gotta love the generation of judgment. We all have done this and worse. Do t care if he gets hired again or not but why must he show anyone anything to get any chance again. We are all no different. We all think we are good and really we are not. This. Judge me as you may on this stupid website but everyone, I mean EVERYONE had said or done something just as bad as these emails and if you deny that your a liar and i feel bad for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brat&Beer Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 I don't see any NFL team hiring him. He's not worth the baggage. He's 22-31 since returning to he Raiders. He hasn't won a playoff game since he won a Super Bowl with Tony Dungy's defense. There is however a lot of trash sports journalism out there. Someone will likely hire him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striker Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 41 minutes ago, PACKRULE said: Gotta love the generation of judgment. We all have done this and worse. Do t care if he gets hired again or not but why must he show anyone anything to get any chance again. We are all no different. We all think we are good and really we are not. 29 minutes ago, Siman08/OH said: This. Judge me as you may on this stupid website but everyone, I mean EVERYONE had said or done something just as bad as these emails and if you deny that your a liar and i feel bad for you. You both have fired off racist, misogynistic, homophobic, and transphobic emails to your friends/colleagues and also received topless photos of someone else's female employees as recently as 2018 AND assume this is just the norm? What a dreadfully low bar you've set for yourselves and others. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striker Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 2 hours ago, NFLGURU said: Don't be a prisoner of the moment, what Gruden did 10 years ago was bad, but he was a great broadcaster and a good coach. I don't really know if "good" is something that should be associated with Gruden, even before this. He's basically Jeff Fisher if "The Tackle" never happened. He even has a worse winning percentage and a marginally better playoff record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted October 12, 2021 Author Share Posted October 12, 2021 6 hours ago, PACKRULE said: Gotta love the generation of judgment. We all have done this and worse. Do t care if he gets hired again or not but why must he show anyone anything to get any chance again. We are all no different. We all think we are good and really we are not. Speak for yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 4 hours ago, Striker said: You both have fired off racist, misogynistic, homophobic, and transphobic emails to your friends/colleagues and also received topless photos of someone else's female employees as recently as 2018 AND assume this is just the norm? What a dreadfully low bar you've set for yourselves and others. Yeah I dunno what's going on with those posts. I've never heard or read stuff remotely that nasty from anyone in my life I'm friends with or work with. Especially WHILE IN a professional setting. I mean, that's absurd to suggest everybody acts like that. Yeesh. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterfish_21 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 7 hours ago, PACKRULE said: Gotta love the generation of judgment. We all have done this and worse. Do t care if he gets hired again or not but why must he show anyone anything to get any chance again. We are all no different. We all think we are good and really we are not. Speak for yourself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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