Random Thoughts

[jsthomp2007]

I didn't think it was possible to light a fart. But it is a real thing, you can light a fart. 

[grizmo78]

Last night was almost capped off a perfect weekend of knocking Brady and Mahomes out of the playoffs. At this point, I think the team that has the best shot to keep KC from another championship is the Rams. They have the D-Line to be able to create havoc while playing coverage behind it. At this point, the next 8 years or so feels like just hoping Mahomes career turns out more like Rodgers than Brady's. And mostly that's because of the **** people KC employs more so than Mahomes himself. 

[broncosfan_101]

7 minutes ago, grizmo78 said:

Last night was almost capped off a perfect weekend of knocking Brady and Mahomes out of the playoffs. At this point, I think the team that has the best shot to keep KC from another championship is the Rams. They have the D-Line to be able to create havoc while playing coverage behind it. At this point, the next 8 years or so feels like just hoping Mahomes career turns out more like Rodgers than Brady's. And mostly that's because of the **** people KC employs more so than Mahomes himself. 

Oh lord that’s a depressing thought, but you’re right: the floor for Pat Mahomes’s career is probably Aaron Rodgers. 

[broncofan48]

8 minutes ago, broncosfan_101 said:

Oh lord that’s a depressing thought, but you’re right: the floor for Pat Mahomes’s career is probably Aaron Rodgers. 

And then coupled with Herbert, this division is going to be a bloodbath for Denver for the next decade

[paul-mac]

46 minutes ago, broncofan48 said:

And then coupled with Herbert, this division is going to be a bloodbath for Denver for the next decade

I wouldn't worry about Herbert too much. The Chargers are specialists in failure and they'll win a way to ruin him for sure.

 

Mahomes is a major issue though. We are absolutely stuffed with him in the division.

[broncofan48]

6 minutes ago, paul-mac said:

I wouldn't worry about Herbert too much. The Chargers are specialists in failure and they'll win a way to ruin him for sure.

 

Mahomes is a major issue though. We are absolutely stuffed with him in the division.

Oh I don’t trust the chargers but I do believe in Herbert’s talent.  Even if he’s Rivers though that’s a tough *** division

 

Coupled with Burrow, Lamar, and Allen that doesn’t leave a lot of room for errors to make the AFC playoffs

[paul-mac]

8 minutes ago, broncofan48 said:

Oh I don’t trust the chargers but I do believe in Herbert’s talent.  Even if he’s Rivers though that’s a tough *** division

 

Coupled with Burrow, Lamar, and Allen that doesn’t leave a lot of room for errors to make the AFC playoffs

 

Like, despite him playing like an absolute superstar in his two seasons in the NFL so far, he has a 15-17 record (And we're 2-2 against them) as a starting QB and hasn't made the playoffs.

 

I think those who act like Herbert is going to turn the Chargers into the next AFC superpower are either thinking that he's going to elevate his play to another level (unlikely, he's already an elite QB superstar) or that the dysfunctional Chargers are suddenly going to build a much better team around him. Everything we've known about that franchise for the last 15 years suggests that won't be the case.

 

I am genuinely concerned that Andy Reid and Mahomes are going to have a true dynasty run in KC like the Patriots did for all those years, but I don't lose a wink of sleep worrying about the Chargers even though I genuinely think Herbert is the real deal. None of you should be worrying about the Chargers either. They will always find a way to grab defeat from the jaws of victory. The absolute definition of specialists in failure.

 

I still remember that time they had the best offense AND defense in football and didn't even make the playoffs.

 

 

 

Edited January 24, 2022 by paul-mac

[AKRNA]

1 hour ago, broncosfan_101 said:

Oh lord that’s a depressing thought, but you’re right: the floor for Pat Mahomes’s career is probably Aaron Rodgers. 

He'll have a great career, no doubt. Next year however his cap hit goes from $7.5 to $35.5 million. KC's top 6 players makeup around 70% of their total cap in 2022. I know @broncos_fan _from _uk has pointed out the "2nd contract" black hole quite a few times. 

Well, pay attention. This is exactly what he was talking about and it's what separates Brady from Rodgers. I am really curious what sort of team KC fields next year. I think the drop off will be huge but we'll see.

[broncofan48]

1 hour ago, paul-mac said:

 

Like, despite him playing like an absolute superstar in his two seasons in the NFL so far, he has a 15-17 record (And we're 2-2 against them) as a starting QB and hasn't made the playoffs.

 

I think those who act like Herbert is going to turn the Chargers into the next AFC superpower are either thinking that he's going to elevate his play to another level (unlikely, he's already an elite QB superstar) or that the dysfunctional Chargers are suddenly going to build a much better team around him. Everything we've known about that franchise for the last 15 years suggests that won't be the case.

 

I am genuinely concerned that Andy Reid and Mahomes are going to have a true dynasty run in KC like the Patriots did for all those years, but I don't lose a wink of sleep worrying about the Chargers even though I genuinely think Herbert is the real deal. None of you should be worrying about the Chargers either. They will always find a way to grab defeat from the jaws of victory. The absolute definition of specialists in failure.

 

I still remember that time they had the best offense AND defense in football and didn't even make the playoffs.

 

 

 

My point was not so much them as SB contenders year in year out necessarily but Herbert being as good as he is more so it makes a .500 in division record tough to achieve on paper.   Unless we drastically upgrade our QB

 

3 division or more losses a year makes making the playoffs very difficult let alone ever getting a high seed or bye

[BroncoBruin]

The best QBs in NFL history consistently dominate their divisions. That’s the real problem, not KC’s ability to win more championships, unless we’re just resigned to rooting against KC for the next decade. And that might be reality. 

[bMiller031]

4 hours ago, broncofan48 said:

I am genuinely concerned that Andy Reid and Mahomes are going to have a true dynasty run in KC like the Patriots did for all those years

100%.  Andy Reid’s trajectory was forever changed by the Mahomes pairing.  He may end up with 300 career wins.

[paul-mac]

Sounds like two ex Broncos head coaches are in the mix for their second shot elsewhere. Josh McDaniels is assembling a staff for the Raiders job (with Wink Martindale as the DC) whilst Vance Joseph is among the favourites for the Dolphins job.

 

Good luck to Joseph, who was a good and principled man who unfortunately was in over his head in Denver. McDaniels, on the other hand, I hope he has another McDisaster and runs that disgusting franchise into the ground. 

[lomaxgrUK]

How crazy to think back to that Mahomes first start against us in Denver. He was so good even in that game. You could immediately tell it wasn't too big for him.

But to think he was going to become what he is? No way. The guy has been to an AFC Championship every single year as a starter. And to the people hanging on the salary cap stuff, hoping their team gets worse - he has had some awful Defenses in his tenure, and it didn't matter. 

It's going to be a long, painful road whilst he is playing.

[broncosfan07]

Not sure why it really matters what happens with the Chiefs cap space, lesser teams with great QBs can still smoke you in the regular season and prevent you from even reaching the playoffs. Biggest concern is will Andy Reid remain healthy long enough to coach through most of Mahomes contract.

You cannot tell me you’d have any confidence a single Bronco QB going back to mid 2014 would’ve been able to keep up with Mahomes and Allen on Saturday and kept Denver in the game.

[broncos_fan _from _uk]

31 minutes ago, broncosfan07 said:

Not sure why it really matters what happens with the Chiefs cap space, lesser teams with great QBs can still smoke you in the regular season and prevent you from even reaching the playoffs. Biggest concern is will Andy Reid remain healthy long enough to coach through most of Mahomes contract.

You cannot tell me you’d have any confidence a single Bronco QB going back to mid 2014 would’ve been able to keep up with Mahomes and Allen on Saturday and kept Denver in the game.

With this years chiefs team? No chance in hell. Let’s see what they are able to field once Mahomes eats a huge chunk of their cap. I remember people taking about how Seattle was going to be unstoppable when Russ was on his rookie contract. Same for Big Ben. And Rodgers. Then they all got paid. None have been back to the SB. I suspect the same will happen with the chiefs. though with Brady soon retiring that changes the economic dynamics a bit unless another QB starts taking far below market value in order to win. That actually brings up an interesting point. Will we continue to see only young QBs (and old QBs playing for cheap trying to get one last ring) win the super bowl once Brady retires? Or will the dynamic change back to the way it was pre free agency where we have true dynasties?