iknowcool Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 (edited) Kelvin Benjamin's stats: 11 games, 21 catches, 334 yards, 1 TD (36.2%!!! catch rate, worst in the NFL). Not to mention all the INTs caused and drops by him. That doesn't include the 2 catches for 20 yards by him today, tbf. Edited December 3, 2018 by iknowcool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4L Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 On 11/29/2018 at 11:05 PM, rich homie said: When would Week 15 games get flexed? I believe the Tuesday two weeks before is the deadline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbuff23835 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 5 hours ago, iknowcool said: Kelvin Benjamin's stats: 11 games, 21 catches, 334 yards, 1 TD (36.2%!!! catch rate, worst in the NFL). Not to mention all the INTs caused and drops by him. That doesn't include the 2 catches for 20 yards by him today, tbf. He’s worthless. And he’s had 3 would be touchdowns fall right out of his hands that i can vividly remember. Two of which were jump balls which are supposedly his strength. The other was a gimme slant route he dropped at the goal line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 What a weird year for rookie QBs. Baker is easily the best of the bunch, but he is definitely not setting the league on fire. Darnold looks horrible and then has been injured for 3 weeks. Allen looks like a guy who played for Wyoming, but has had some really nice "wow" plays. Rosen though has been the most interesting. His statlines are consistently hilarious. These are his last 4 games: 11/26, 149 yards, 0 TDs, 0 INTs, 5.73 YPA 12/19, 105 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 5.53 YPA 9/20, 136 yards, 3 TDs, 2 INTs, 6.8 YPA 22/39, 208 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs, 5.33 YPA He has yet to throw for more than 252 yards in a game and has only one game where he has averaged more than 7 yards per attempt. I've been lucky enough to not see any Cardinals games this year, so someone is going to have to explain to me what the offense looks like for a quarterback to consistently put up statlines like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 7 hours ago, iknowcool said: Kelvin Benjamin's stats: 11 games, 21 catches, 334 yards, 1 TD (36.2%!!! catch rate, worst in the NFL). Not to mention all the INTs caused and drops by him. That doesn't include the 2 catches for 20 yards by him today, tbf. But I was assured by him that Cam Newton was the problem with his production. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinSting Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Josh Allen had 135 yards rushing yesterday, he was driving the Fins crazy. Get him almost sacked, looks like the play is over, boom he runs for 35 yards instead. Of course, lots of QB's run when they are rookies. After a few solid hits, they don't run so much after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, minutemancl said: What a weird year for rookie QBs. Baker is easily the best of the bunch, but he is definitely not setting the league on fire. Darnold looks horrible and then has been injured for 3 weeks. Allen looks like a guy who played for Wyoming, but has had some really nice "wow" plays. Rosen though has been the most interesting. His statlines are consistently hilarious. These are his last 4 games: 11/26, 149 yards, 0 TDs, 0 INTs, 5.73 YPA 12/19, 105 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 5.53 YPA 9/20, 136 yards, 3 TDs, 2 INTs, 6.8 YPA 22/39, 208 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs, 5.33 YPA He has yet to throw for more than 252 yards in a game and has only one game where he has averaged more than 7 yards per attempt. I've been lucky enough to not see any Cardinals games this year, so someone is going to have to explain to me what the offense looks like for a quarterback to consistently put up statlines like this. If you follow the Cards' games and you follow DVOA - they literally have 1 guy who should probably be starting on an OL (Pugh, who's on IR), and 1 guy who even makes a top 15 team's top 8 (rookie C). It's just the typical rookie learning curve....on top of truly horrid OL play. The other part - OC Mike McCoy has been canned, but you can't replace his terrible system with a new one in-season. It takes too long. New OC Byron Leftwich is trying to piecemeal it, but it's a patch job at best. None of which absolves Rosen when he makes typical rookie mistakes. A better surrogate sign is that David Johnson, although healthy, can't even come close to his 2016 #'s. That's all on the OL & McCoy's OMG-bad scheme, that can't be simply overhauled in-season. Look at Jared Goff's rookie season - you'll see similar statlines...with a much better OL (but the absolute worst HC ever in Jeff Fisher lol). It's why GM's hate starting rookies. Baker's just had the fortune of playing with the most complete O (although it's not like he's chopped liver - but get the best OL, run game and weapons on O - you'll get better results). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 (edited) Side note - there's no link yet, but Josh Allen apparently had 814 yards in distance travelled yesterday dropping back to pass and running for his life vs. MIA (NFL Network put that line up last night - hoping to get a link from NFL NextGen stats today to confirm). That's RIDICULOUS. Edited December 3, 2018 by Broncofan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 That was always the problem with Pugh. He's a good and versatile OL, but he's always injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbuff23835 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 20 minutes ago, minutemancl said: What a weird year for rookie QBs. Baker is easily the best of the bunch, but he is definitely not setting the league on fire. Darnold looks horrible and then has been injured for 3 weeks. Allen looks like a guy who played for Wyoming, but has had some really nice "wow" plays. Rosen though has been the most interesting. His statlines are consistently hilarious. These are his last 4 games: 11/26, 149 yards, 0 TDs, 0 INTs, 5.73 YPA 12/19, 105 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 5.53 YPA 9/20, 136 yards, 3 TDs, 2 INTs, 6.8 YPA 22/39, 208 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs, 5.33 YPA He has yet to throw for more than 252 yards in a game and has only one game where he has averaged more than 7 yards per attempt. I've been lucky enough to not see any Cardinals games this year, so someone is going to have to explain to me what the offense looks like for a quarterback to consistently put up statlines like this. Allen looks legit. He consistantly our plays his stat line as well for what it’s worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 minute ago, bigbadbuff23835 said: Allen looks legit. He consistantly our plays his stat line as well for what it’s worth. From what I have seen, I agree. And the talent around him on offense is absolute garbage. I think even Darnold and Rosen have more to work with than Allen does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbuff23835 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 hour ago, minutemancl said: From what I have seen, I agree. And the talent around him on offense is absolute garbage. I think even Darnold and Rosen have more to work with than Allen does. Rosen for sure does, Darnold has a bunch of trash too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FinSting Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 19 hours ago, CKS97 said: How much longer does Belichick coach? Ving Rhames says: He'll never ever lose his L.A. privileges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 A lot depends on the Carolina game, but the Browns have 4 very winnable games now that Emmanuel Sanders is done for the year. Baker would have to be a lock for rookie of the year if the Browns win 8 games this year right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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