jimkelly02 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 39 minutes ago, Geezy said: we need better depth at S, Abram has free reign because who the hell are they going to replace him with? Way too undisciplined and is prone to give up cheap and easy TDs. We need someone who is going to bottle him up and hold him accountable. This crap is unacceptable. I think he can be a good player and has skills to play in the NFL, but he needs to lose the back yard football mentality and learn the nuances of the position. Spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Don’t get the that game didn’t mean anything for Abram take. I have been one of his biggest supporters here, but again in the Broncos game he showed a lack of awareness and basic knowledge of the defense they were playing on that Jeudy TD. It’s a cover 2 and his only job is to cover the deep middle and he doesn’t he stopped at the 20 yard line while Jeudy catches a ball that’s in Abrams area where he should be at. It doesn’t matter what the record is that type of mental mistakes matter when we have seen them happen over and over 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 21 hours ago, big_palooka said: Man... I didn't know you slurped Abram so hard. Guy is a bust waiting to happen. Game doesn't translate to this era. He's a box safety on run downs in time. It will take a literal miracle to build him into a coverage player. He does not have the skills or instincts to be a safety in this day and age. Yeah, Abram sucks. He's probably one of my least favorite players. Dude is a liability in coverage, plays so reckless that he has hurt multiple players on our team, and talks crap like he's the greatest player ever. Easily the worst pick of the Grudock era. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 21 hours ago, Geezy said: we need better depth at S, Abram has free reign because who the hell are they going to replace him with? Way too undisciplined and is prone to give up cheap and easy TDs. We need someone who is going to bottle him up and hold him accountable. This crap is unacceptable. I think he can be a good player and has skills to play in the NFL, but he needs to lose the back yard football mentality and learn the nuances of the position. If you're a former 1st round pick safety that still needs to learn how to play in coverage going into your third NFL season, things aren't looking too good for you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 2 hours ago, NYRaider said: If you're a former 1st round pick safety that still needs to learn how to play in coverage going into your third NFL season, things aren't looking too good for you. i mean he missed the first year, and hopefully with a years worth of on-field experience, hell realize hes hurting his team by playing so reckless. I still have hope, he has a skillset to work with, but its mainly between the ears for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Just now, Geezy said: i mean he missed the first year, and hopefully with a years worth of on-field experience, hell realize hes hurting his team by playing so reckless. I still have hope, he has a skillset to work with, but its mainly between the ears for him. His issues date back to his days at Mississippi State though. During the pre draft process there were a lot of questions about how his style would translate because he was more of an enforcer/small linebacker than a true safety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: His issues date back to his days at Mississippi State though. During the pre draft process there were a lot of questions about how his style would translate because he was more of an enforcer/small linebacker than a true safety. like many have said, hed be better served as a big nickel close to LOS type. He has talent to work with, we need a DC that can think outside the box and get the most out of guy like him and Littleton. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Geezy said: like many have said, hed be better served as a big nickel close to LOS type. He has talent to work with, we need a DC that can think outside the box and get the most out of guy like him and Littleton. Agreed. He's basically a small LB and we'll have to get creative with how we use him. Not all hope is lost but he's going to have to get a lot better to be worthy of where he got picked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakdb36 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 9 hours ago, Geezy said: like many have said, hed be better served as a big nickel close to LOS type. He has talent to work with, we need a DC that can think outside the box and get the most out of guy like him and Littleton. I agree but with those limitations, he shouldn't have been drafted in the 1st. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbsk Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 11 hours ago, NYRaider said: Agreed. He's basically a small LB and we'll have to get creative with how we use him. Not all hope is lost but he's going to have to get a lot better to be worthy of where he got picked. Ironically, Karl Joseph is showing to be the better cover player 🤔 Abram still has time of course but he looks like he needs to learn a lot..... As you say, not all hope lost but it may be a steep hill to climb. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessie Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 It’s effectively Abrams rookie year so I would cut him a lot of slack but the error on the Jeudy TD in the last game is a concern given the Chiefs game where he did the same thing. Not learning from his mistakes is a worry. Thought he had settled down a bit from Marinelli taking over but he looked too eager to try and make the big play against the Broncos on the Jeudy TD. Just do your job as someone famously said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakdb36 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 44 minutes ago, Darbsk said: Ironically, Karl Joseph is showing to be the better cover player 🤔 Not really. They're both not very good and bad picks for 1st rd S. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 19 hours ago, NYRaider said: If you're a former 1st round pick safety that still needs to learn how to play in coverage going into your third NFL season, things aren't looking too good for you. well things are probably looking good for the player, cause youre getting that first round pick salary and cant read coverage... but things definitely arent looking good for the team that drafted them lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 You could argue all our prospects on defense should have been 2nd round picks Ferrell- second rounder- stout against the run, but lacks athletic ability. Has to win with technique and doesn’t finish... Mullen- second rounder- actually drafted him around his value Arnette- second rounder- not going go deep in this one, but was projected 2nd who hasn’t shown he’s worth that 1st round status Abram- second rounder- beast hitter, seems like a box safety. Until he shows his coverage ability should have been a day2 pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitty 2.0 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 22 hours ago, NYRaider said: If you're a former 1st round pick safety that still needs to learn how to play in coverage going into your third NFL season, things aren't looking too good for you. Playing 14 games, Fixed it for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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