VigilantZombie Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Jlash said: Are they locked on the roster? Are they free to be moved? Stop being so difficult and start being specific. I don't know what your deal is, but it's childish. It's been discussed. Submit your FULL proposals, we'll vote on FULL proposals. A couple weeks ago everyone started bringing forth proposals, they outlined them. Now there's a handful of people who either don't remember them, or are trying to mix and match. If you liked different parts of different proposals, then put it all together and we'll vote on it. We don't need to be this fragmented. And WW to answer your question, no one is in "charge" of the league. That's why the majority has to vote on changes. Thata fair jlash, that wasn't a slight toward you or bcb, yall are doing a great job 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pheltzbahr Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 If a contract is modified in any way, it is locked for the year, should obviously apply here as the contract is being modified. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 23 minutes ago, pheltzbahr said: If a contract is modified in any way, it is locked for the year, should obviously apply here as the contract is being modified. Yeah i am not in favor of a scenario where the player is not locked imo, unless perhaps an owner is opting to take the cap hit and unchange the player status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlash Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 2 hours ago, wwhickok said: Thata fair jlash, that wasn't a slight toward you or bcb, yall are doing a great job We're all trying. I know we're all tired of this, this sucks. But we'll get it figured out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pheltzbahr Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 5 hours ago, wwhickok said: Yeah i am not in favor of a scenario where the player is not locked imo, unless perhaps an owner is opting to take the cap hit and unchange the player status. In my proposal where you are taking the cap hit, the player is tradable because you are not modifying the contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 You guys say the word proposal so much in this thread I keep getting hit with engagement ring ads on here 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 14 hours ago, pheltzbahr said: In my proposal where you are taking the cap hit, the player is tradable because you are not modifying the contract. I understood that part. Im fine with that scenario if that option were chosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pheltzbahr Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 On 8/20/2020 at 9:33 PM, Ragnarok said: @PR @MD4L @Jlash @Counselor @Pickle Rick @The Orca @SirA1 @pheltzbahr @Whicker @WFLukic @wwhickok @bcb1213 @RuskieTitan @TedLavie @Xmad If you have a proposal you would like to officially put forward for the opt-out, please quote this post with your fully typed out proposal. Then we can take the quoted messages and copy-paste them into a new voting thread. I'll make a new voting thread in about 48 hours to give everyone time. Go for it bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 49 minutes ago, pheltzbahr said: Go for it bro. I'll give everyone until tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 (edited) Ik this has essentially been proposed but im going to attempt to put it all into one full proposal here. Owners can select from 2 Options: Option A) Opt Out: Opted out player will hold a cap hit value of $350, not count against the rostet limit, be transactionally locked, and contract will toll. Option B) Opt-In: Owner chooses to take on full cap hit, counts against roster limit, is not transactionally locked, and contract does not toll. Edited August 22, 2020 by wwhickok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pheltzbahr Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 1 hour ago, wwhickok said: Ik this has essentially been proposed but im going to attempt to put it all into one full proposal here. Owners can select from 2 Options: Option A) Opt Out: Opted out player will hold a cap hit value of $350, not count against the rostet limit, be transactionally locked, and contract will toll. Option B) Opt-In: Owner chooses to take on full cap hit, counts against roster limit, is not transactionally locked, and contract does not toll. This is essentially my proposal without the 150 part, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 2 hours ago, wwhickok said: Ik this has essentially been proposed but im going to attempt to put it all into one full proposal here. Owners can select from 2 Options: Option A) Opt Out: Opted out player will hold a cap hit value of $350, not count against the rostet limit, be transactionally locked, and contract will toll. Option B) Opt-In: Owner chooses to take on full cap hit, counts against roster limit, is not transactionally locked, and contract does not toll. I can ride with this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 8 hours ago, wwhickok said: Ik this has essentially been proposed but im going to attempt to put it all into one full proposal here. Owners can select from 2 Options: Option A) Opt Out: Opted out player will hold a cap hit value of $350, not count against the rostet limit, be transactionally locked, and contract will toll. Option B) Opt-In: Owner chooses to take on full cap hit, counts against roster limit, is not transactionally locked, and contract does not toll. As an objective observer, this one makes the most sense to me. Have you all considered the possibility that someone tries to list a player who opted out IRL in their BDL gameday lineup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcb1213 Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Blue said: As an objective observer, this one makes the most sense to me. Have you all considered the possibility that someone tries to list a player who opted out IRL in their BDL gameday lineup? We've already voted that opt for players are basically the same as players placed on IR in terms of roster status. Now it's just figuring out the contract part Edited August 23, 2020 by bcb1213 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlash Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 16 hours ago, pheltzbahr said: This is essentially my proposal without the 150 part, no? Yes. It's getting confusing now. I wouldn't expect anything less. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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