MacReady Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Just now, skibrett15 said: why was clay good today? Oh, it was definitely not him being good and it was somebody else sucking. No way Clay Matthews has any value left. He's washed up for sure and can't ever be good. He's so bad he shouldn't even be on the team next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 23 minutes ago, HorizontoZenith said: Oh, it was definitely not him being good and it was somebody else sucking. No way Clay Matthews has any value left. He's washed up for sure and can't ever be good. He's so bad he shouldn't even be on the team next year. I think most just don't care for his contract .. he can still play. He was really on today, but it's not like he's lived up to that contract the past few years. I am intrigued as to whether a new coordinator could figure out how to get more out of him. I think Dom does a lot to find him good opportunities, but our blitzes are so predictable that other teams see them coming from a mile away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 1 hour ago, skibrett15 said: why was clay good today? He has a game like that now and then against a bad OL. Did it earlier this year against ATLs backup RT. Clay has like 6 sacks in those 2 games and about 2 sacks in the other 10 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugger Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 1 hour ago, {Family Ghost} said: I think most just don't care for his contract .. he can still play. He was really on today, but it's not like he's lived up to that contract the past few years. I am intrigued as to whether a new coordinator could figure out how to get more out of him. I think Dom does a lot to find him good opportunities, but our blitzes are so predictable that other teams see them coming from a mile away. I think Horizonto was being sarcastic. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 So for real, as awful as the defense was to watch today, they were a net of -13. That should win you 75% of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevein2012 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 It seems weird to have 7 sacks with 13 QB hits and 5 passes defended and still give up 400 yards of offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haha21 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Awesome to see Kenny Clark finally get a couple sacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Haha21 said: Awesome to see Kenny Clark finally get a couple sacks. Now the casuals will realize he's good lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopackgonerd Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 58 minutes ago, NormSizedMidget said: Now the casuals will realize he's good lol NTs dont usually get recognition specially ina 3-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 10 hours ago, NormSizedMidget said: Now the casuals will realize he's good lol It's just funny to me how he's literally the most promising NT in the league right now, he turned 22 a month ago, and people here were "meh" on him because "he didn't get enough sacks." It's completely indicative of Packer fandom right now. Packer fans would call Mack a bust after his rookie year. They would have cut Clowney each of his first three years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugger Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 And remember when Ted took Kenny in the draft and how unenthused folks were with this pick? It might end to be one of his finest hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 hour ago, HorizontoZenith said: It's just funny to me how he's literally the most promising NT in the league right now, he turned 22 a month ago, and people here were "meh" on him because "he didn't get enough sacks." It's completely indicative of Packer fandom right now. Packer fans would call Mack a bust after his rookie year. They would have cut Clowney each of his first three years. That's kind of how it works with a lot of fans, of any team. You need to be making turnovers to show up. Or sacks in this case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOnlyThing Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Packers D has improved to 19th overall after 12 games, giving up 22.3 points per game. They have a real chance to improve on that ranking given that they face the worst scoring offense in the NFL (14.7 ppg) this weekend in Cleveland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibrett15 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 10 hours ago, HorizontoZenith said: It's just funny to me how he's literally the most promising NT in the league right now, he turned 22 a month ago, and people here were "meh" on him because "he didn't get enough sacks." It's completely indicative of Packer fandom right now. Packer fans would call Mack a bust after his rookie year. They would have cut Clowney each of his first three years. who was meh on KC before the season. He was almost unanimously projected as the guy most likely to make a leap. Once the season started, it was extremely evident he's one of our top players. On the other hand, being disappointed with clowney because of availability is completely reasonable, and if a guy like mack doesn't flash pass rush ability in his rookie year, then that's a concern. Those guys are meant to get after the QB, Clark... not so much. The guys who were the most polarizing on here pre-season were Randall and Rollins. Randall had a rough start and has come on really strong. Rollins had a rougher start and then got injured. As far as this week: Whitehead played a few too many snaps since we were without King. He got roasted early. Hawkins was a little better. We didn't see any of pipkins or Marwin Evans on defense, and we played 3 safeties a LOT, sometimes 4, and sometimes we played with 3 safeties plus 2 CBs and Joe Thomas. That was an interesting combo. It was a bit strange that we didn't play more CBs, and preferred to use safeties. I had thought Hawkins had the trust of the coaching staff, but it appears they are looking to improve and play more guys who are versatile zone defenders who can blitz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevein2012 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 41 minutes ago, skibrett15 said: who was meh on KC before the season. He was almost unanimously projected as the guy most likely to make a leap. Once the season started, it was extremely evident he's one of our top players. On the other hand, being disappointed with clowney because of availability is completely reasonable, and if a guy like mack doesn't flash pass rush ability in his rookie year, then that's a concern. Those guys are meant to get after the QB, Clark... not so much. The guys who were the most polarizing on here pre-season were Randall and Rollins. Randall had a rough start and has come on really strong. Rollins had a rougher start and then got injured. As far as this week: Whitehead played a few too many snaps since we were without King. He got roasted early. Hawkins was a little better. We didn't see any of pipkins or Marwin Evans on defense, and we played 3 safeties a LOT, sometimes 4, and sometimes we played with 3 safeties plus 2 CBs and Joe Thomas. That was an interesting combo. It was a bit strange that we didn't play more CBs, and preferred to use safeties. I had thought Hawkins had the trust of the coaching staff, but it appears they are looking to improve and play more guys who are versatile zone defenders who can blitz. Just wait till next season when Capers unleashes the 8 safety goalline package Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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