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7 hours ago, mission27 said:

This is exactly what the MoL was concerned about from day 1.  Absolutely damning.  @TLO

 

about 25% of the population was likely never going to get the vaccine.   age 16 and under are not eligible currently.   That is another 20% of the population.   Lets say the overlap of the 2 groups makes the total of that around 35%

around 30% have received both shots.  another 13% have received 1 shot.  Total that is 43%.  

Put that together and it is 78% of the population.... 2 shots, 1 shot and likely not going to get it/ineligible.   Something about the number of individuals likely to get the vaccine was always going to dwindle and slow the process.

Did the pause on J&J help, likely not, but a slow down was going to happen as things moved forward.

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10 hours ago, squire12 said:

about 25% of the population was likely never going to get the vaccine.   age 16 and under are not eligible currently.   That is another 20% of the population.   Lets say the overlap of the 2 groups makes the total of that around 35%

around 30% have received both shots.  another 13% have received 1 shot.  Total that is 43%.  

Put that together and it is 78% of the population.... 2 shots, 1 shot and likely not going to get it/ineligible.   Something about the number of individuals likely to get the vaccine was always going to dwindle and slow the process.

Did the pause on J&J help, likely not, but a slow down was going to happen as things moved forward.

Also see my post above from the same guy. He ended up second guessing his statistical argument. It was both funny and humbling to see at the same time.

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This article is not free but it should be:

Here’s what to do if you get covid-19 between vaccine doses.........

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It is rare, but not unheard of, for people getting the Pfizer or Moderna coronavirus vaccines to contract covid-19 mid-vaccination — that is, between doses.

The two-dose mRNA vaccines, authorized for emergency use last year by the Food and Drug Administration, were shown in U.S. clinical trials to be about 95 percent effective at preventing infection among those who were fully vaccinated.

 

But the vaccines are less effective — about 80 percent — between the first and second doses, according to a real-world study from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. That means about 20 percent of those who are only partially vaccinated could still get infected.  Inci Yildirim, a pediatric-infectious-disease physician and vaccinologist at the Yale School of Medicine, said with most viral vaccines, including the coronavirus vaccines, it is not advisable to vaccinate people who have a fever or are otherwise ill. The reason is because medical professionals need to be able to differentiate between symptoms that are caused by an infection and those that are simply a side effect of the vaccine, she said.  Also, Yildirim said, people who are planning to be vaccinated should be well, because immune cells need to be healthy to have a robust reaction to vaccine. 

Some people on immunosuppressive therapies may need to delay a dose because the therapies can blunt the immune response to the vaccine, for instance.

 

And those who have received convalescent plasma or monoclonal antibodies are told to wait at least three months before getting the shot because they will have antibodies against the coronavirus spike protein “and the vaccine coming in will be spike-protein-induced protection,” Yildirim said.  

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2021/04/30/covid-infection-between-doses/

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43 minutes ago, Deadpulse said:

2nd dose in the bag

2 weeks away from being a real boy!

It's pretty fun. I just went to a friend's birthday party at a bar on Saturday night and hung out for hours w/ no fears or reservations. Got a lot more plans in the near future as well as a result of being a "real boy".

Hope it's an easy shot for you to handle

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This is strangely hilarious:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-05-03/california-coronavirus-cases-fall-amid-oregon-washington-surges%3f_amp=true

 

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Although the highly contagious U.K. variant (B.1.1.7) is believed to cause significant problems in the latest surge in Michigan, the California variant (B.1.427/B.1.429) is possibly keeping a lid on the U.K. variant in California. The California variant, though more contagious than the conventional strain, is less contagious than the U.K. variant — and if you had to choose between the two, the California variant is the better one to deal with.

“There’s real supposition that [the California variant] … may be out competing the U.K. variant,” Rutherford said.

 

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21 hours ago, Xenos said:

@Shanedorf and @ramssuperbowl99 do you think we need to get 12-15 vaccinated as well? What about the decision to go younger eventually? Just curious about all this in the grand scheme of things.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/551390-gottlieb-predicts-10m-kids-would-be-inoculated-before-fall-if%3famp

We give flu shots down to kids at 1 year old right? My first instinct is that we would keep going as low as we can safely.

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1 hour ago, Deadpulse said:

woke up in the middle of the night with the shakes and a fever, had to call out of work. Down some nyquil and the shakes went away but I still have a slight fever

Pfizer or Moderna?

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