jebrick Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 24 minutes ago, Rich7sena said: It's important to note that beat reporters are the biggest marks in the history of marks. Also, based on him claiming this info is from a "direct source," is he saying that an NFC GM, or someone close to decisionmaking, told him that McCarthy is their QB 2? Why would a GM do that? (A GM would only do that to lie). Are you saying I can't believe what the talking heads reporters are saying before the draft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich7sena Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 4 minutes ago, jebrick said: Are you saying I can't believe what the talking heads reporters are saying before the draft? Unless it's from Schefter, Rapoport, or any of the sideline reporters. I don't make the rules. Beat reports are basically team employees who are desperate for national attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich7sena Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 25 minutes ago, Ragnarok said: It's a team set at QB/drafting later they want a lot of QBs to go early. It may very well be true. In this case, they might as well lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 17 minutes ago, Rich7sena said: I just don't see a team telling a random beat writer their draft plans unless they want to manipulate a player's perceived value. That's obviously why. 4 minutes ago, Rich7sena said: In this case, they might as well lie. Why waste your time lying if you can tell the truth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldfishwars Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 49 minutes ago, Rich7sena said: It's important to note that beat reporters are the biggest marks in the history of marks. Also, based on him claiming this info is from a "direct source," is he saying that an NFC GM, or someone close to decisionmaking, told him that McCarthy is their QB 2? Why would a GM do that? (A GM would only do that to lie). Not just coming from him, there's a lot of smoke around which suggests the league really likes McCarthy and it's the sort of news which would filter out to beat writers from off-season gatherings like the Senior Bowl etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich7sena Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 28 minutes ago, Ragnarok said: That's obviously why. Why waste your time lying if you can tell the truth? Counterpoint: why waste your time telling the truth if you can lie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 5 hours ago, Rich7sena said: Counterpoint: why waste your time telling the truth if you can lie? Because remembering the truth takes much less time and energy than remembering a lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 46 minutes ago, Ragnarok said: Because remembering the truth takes much less time and energy than remembering a lie. The Chiefs even have McCarthy as QB1 in this class, I'm told. The Bengals too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossibleCabbage Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 I could see a reason that an NFL team would have McCarthy ahead of Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels, and Michael Penix. It's not a good reason, mind you, but given the demographics of NFL owners it shouldn't be surprising. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDez Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 4 hours ago, PossibleCabbage said: I could see a reason that an NFL team would have McCarthy ahead of Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels, and Michael Penix. It's not a good reason, mind you, but given the demographics of NFL owners it shouldn't be surprising. Bruce Young went first overall and there were scouts that didn’t have him with a 1st rd grade. Anything is possible when owners get involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 10 minutes ago, DirtyDez said: Bruce Young went first overall and there were scouts that didn’t have him with a 1st rd grade. Anything is possible when owners get involved. Good ole Bruce Young 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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scar988 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 On 2/15/2024 at 8:51 AM, Rich7sena said: It's important to note that beat reporters are the biggest marks in the history of marks. Also, based on him claiming this info is from a "direct source," is he saying that an NFC GM, or someone close to decisionmaking, told him that McCarthy is their QB 2? Why would a GM do that? (A GM would only do that to lie). NFL teams will put information out there to see what leaks sometiems too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 On 2/12/2024 at 3:11 PM, Tugboat said: It's all relative to playing style. Where Richardson and Daniels are guys who don't do enough to protect themselves with their respective frames. I don't see McCarthy's frame being anything like the same kind of liability, since...as you astutely pointed out, i don't think that using his legs is going to be nearly as much a component of his game at the next level as those other two. And even where it is a component, he shows a lot more aptitude for "protecting himself". Playing their game in a way that mechanically exposes them a lot more than others, to really vicious hits. It's like...Josh Allen is also involved in a lot of really violent collisions, but he does it in a way that doesn't feel like his frame is nearly the same sort of liability. Same for Cam Newton even, who ran a ton and took a ton of hits...but he was much better at being the aggressor/initiator and just in the way the latter two are built within that Height/Weight listing...they're clearly built like Tanks, very differently than Richardson, and Daniels is in a world of hurt there. Cam Newton and Josh Allen are not good examples of how to handle playing style. Cam Newton was cooked physically by 30, and it is highly likely Josh will be following a similar path based on hits taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 On 2/15/2024 at 8:51 AM, Rich7sena said: It's important to note that beat reporters are the biggest marks in the history of marks. Also, based on him claiming this info is from a "direct source," is he saying that an NFC GM, or someone close to decisionmaking, told him that McCarthy is their QB 2? Why would a GM do that? (A GM would only do that to lie). Teams put out information they want out there. Both true and untrue. If I had to guess, I’d imagine it’s a team in the NFC that likely already has their QB in place (think PHI, GB, SF, DAL, etc.). Personally, I’m not that high on McCarthy, but I can certainly see why teams would value him highly. There’s a LOT less projection about how he’s going to transition to a pro-style offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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