Matts4313 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 13 minutes ago, Danger said: 1. Bill Belichik2. Sean Payton 3. Pete Caroll 4. Doug Pederson 5. Andy Reid 6. Sean McVay 7. John Harbaugh8. Frank Reich 9. Mike Tomlin 10. Anthony Lynn Even by your own tier, Doug could be as low as 7. On my tier list, he could be as high as 7. So its not like you are saying #1 and I am saying #32. I just think he is massively overrated based on all the talent on the Eagles. Really, the only big accomplishment he has is making Wentz not look terrible. Does that make me a Hater? I think its clearly no. /s 7 minutes ago, Kiltman said: Ask Vikings fans their opinion of Flip He's good, but not perfect clearly. He did some of the redzone stuff. Reich helped though for sure. I mean we could do that with all of theses coaches. At least Doug calls the plays, which not all of them do. Losing coaches happens, good ones recover and stabilize. He’ll have to do it again like Belichick has. Part of being good and successful. Duce, Groh and Press Taylor are good ascending talents, Groh needs to work on it a little more than others. But Duce will probably be a HC at some point. Press will be at least an OC some point soon. Schwartz on the other side could get another shot too. They are no Kellen Moore, but I guess you have some newer coaches in the pipelines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: Does that make me a Hater? I think its clearly no. But you're also saying he could be as low as 12. Shrug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Just now, Danger said: But you're also saying he could be as low as 12. Shrug This year is going to show us a lot about both our teams. But I am pretty sure I said in my post that I would put him top 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltman Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: They are no Kellen Moore, but I guess you have some newer coaches in the pipelines. No one has a better mind feel bad Witten will get the HC gig though when they fire Garrett...cuz cowboys 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, Matts4313 said: This is going to be in no important order: McVay Billy B Pete C Tomlin Andy Reid Payton ^ Those 6 are all for sure above him Pederson is in a group with: Gruden Arians Zimmer Rivera Harbaugh So Pederson is somewhere in the 7-12 range for me personally. Probably top 10 though @Danger Looking at the list, I would put Harbaugh 7th and then Doug. Edited August 29, 2019 by Matts4313 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Kiltman said: No one has a better mind feel bad Witten will get the HC gig though when they fire Garrett...cuz cowboys HC Witten OC Romo QB Kitna RB Murray TE Martellus Bennett (lol) WR Miles Austin OL Marc Colombo DL D Ware LB Sean Lee CB Newman S Roy Williams So when we suffer injuries, we will be able to pull directly from the coaching staff. (for real though, I wonder how a staff like this would do) Edited August 29, 2019 by Matts4313 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art_Vandalay Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 If Andy Reid doesn't win a championship in the next two years, does that solidify him as a postseason failure? With Luck gone, who's the biggest threat to KC? 42 year old Tom and Ben who's about to set the record for most sacked QB in history? The AFC reminds me a lot of of the 2004 NFC when there wasn't much resistance for Philly. Obviously the path to the Super Bowl isn't easy, but this should be as easy as it can get for a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltman Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Matts4313 said: HC Witten OC Romo QB Kitna RB Murray TE Martellus Bennett (lol) WR Miles Austin OL Marc Colombo DL D Ware LB Sean Lee CB Newman S Roy Williams So when we suffer injuries, we will be able to pull directly from the coaching staff. (for real though, I wonder how a staff like this would do) Would be fun to watch, would hope they'd be on hard knocks. Just for the Witten "speeches" Martellus would be a riot I actually thought Ware would get into coaching maybe...maybe he will at some point. I'm banking on Lee to go back to Penn State to start coaching at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom cody Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 You never count out New England. As long as Brady's there they're going to be the team to beat in the AFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showtime Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Zeke missing regular season games could be brutal for him. He's already been underpaid as it is, but he's missed several games in the past due to suspension (so he didn't get paid) and he's willing to miss more games and not get paid this season as well? Damn. He's still on his rookie deal, right? I would kind of think the guy needs the money lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, showtime said: Zeke missing regular season games could be brutal for him. He's already been underpaid as it is, but he's missed several games in the past due to suspension (so he didn't get paid) and he's willing to miss more games and not get paid this season as well? Damn. He's still on his rookie deal, right? I would kind of think the guy needs the money lol. He was a top 3 paid back when he entered the league. Underpaid compared to contracts now? Sure. But that is terrible logic. He was top paid RB his entire career so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showtime Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Matts4313 said: He was a top 3 paid back when he entered the league. Underpaid compared to contracts now? Sure. But that is terrible logic. He was top paid RB his entire career so far. Yea, I'm talking about underpaid compared to contracts now, which is why he's holding out. I'm not talking about what he made three years ago. He's also missed games due to suspension, has he not? I'm assuming they don't get paid during that time, but I could be wrong about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVillain112 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Just brutal seeing these in sequence... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 29 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: He was a top 3 paid back when he entered the league. Underpaid compared to contracts now? Sure. But that is terrible logic. He was top paid RB his entire career so far. I completely agree with this. Looking at his 2019 game check payments as his 2019 total compensation is infantile. He was given a gigantic interest free signing bonus that was prorated for this year. His real compensation for 2019 is more like 8 million plus 3 years of interest payments on the 4 million dollar loan. Add in all the money he makes by being the star RB of the Cowboys and we are talking about a very rich man. (endorsements, merch sales, playoff money, video game cut etc) Wanting a new contract is a reasonable request. Holding out from your current contract to get paid the same same as the foolish Rams gave Gurley is just greed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SkippyX said: endorsements Ive said this before, but I dont think he makes much here. He is an accused woman beater, a video'd boobie show'r and a drunk bully. Not many companies signing up for that. Edited August 29, 2019 by Matts4313 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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