Texansfan713 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 bottom line is if the texans didnt screw up the draft none of this crap wouldnt have happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tab Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Texansfan713 said: bottom line is if the texans didnt screw up the draft none of this crap wouldnt have happened. makes you wonder what would have happened if we found a way to keep Duane happy Edited August 31, 2019 by tab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, warfelg said: Kind of humorous to remember that the Texans are kind of one of those teams (The future first they gave to Cleveland to move up for Watson ended up being #4, which definitely has late 1, future 1, second round pick value) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, warfelg said: This is the price the Texans are paying to keep their young QB upright and not injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajayii Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just now, AFlaccoSeagulls said: If the Dolphins are in a full rebuild mode for the future: 1. Why would you trade for Josh Rosen? 2. Why would you trade away an asset like Laremy Tunsil? 3. Why would you start Ryan Fitzpatrick, whose entire freaking brand is built upon winning like 4 games a year? None of this makes sense. 1. Apparently Stephen Ross, owner of the Dolphins, told coaches that he wants a QB. Rosen just so happened to be available and they took a shot. He may or may not be the QB of the future but they also have several other chances to try. Best case scenario is he's good and is flipped for picks in two years. 2. Tunsil is a great LT but you can't ignore two 1st round picks and a 2nd. The OL this year was going to be bad regardless if Tunsil stayed or not. I'm also assuming they didnt want to pay him. 3. Do you start the seasoned vet behind a bad OL or the young QB that you just bought who doesn't know how to recognize blitzes and throws late behind a bad OL? You're thinking about this year which is opposite of what Miami's front office is thinking. They're thinking 2-3 years from now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucketheadsdad Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, SBLIII said: Dolphins are going to be legit by 2022. Crap. Brady might even be retired by then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, Texansfan713 said: bottom line is if the texans didnt screw up the draft none of this crap wouldnt have happened. I don't think anyone disagrees with that (well, Clowney was going no matter what). A 4th to move up a spot would have saved us two firsts and a second. I agree with that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltman Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, minutemancl said: That haul for Miami is absolutely insane. Wow. Houston could have avoided all of this by just trading a 2nd to move up a few spots in the draft and get Dillard. The price you pay for not having a GM. yep, probably could have been even less honestly I was stunned when they didn't and we snagged him by just giving up a 4th & 6th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajayii Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just now, Bucketheadsdad said: Brady might even be retired by then. I hope so. Knowing them, they'll easily replace Brady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, minutemancl said: That haul for Miami is absolutely insane. Wow. Houston could have avoided all of this by just trading a 2nd to move up a few spots in the draft and get Dillard. The price you pay for not having a GM. Eh, they had a GM. Not trading up is why he's no longer here. I don't think anyone disagrees with this, that lack of action set up a chain reaction that led to today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 14 minutes ago, ET80 said: This is the price the Texans are paying to keep their young QB upright and not injured. For sure. Late first / second round picks can certainly be overvalued - there are some big hits and big misses there. There's a good chance that you could brick all three selections quite easily. I think people just generally tend to be risk averse in trades - they want the total upside with none of the risk, which simply isn't feasible most of the time. Everyone should acknowledge that there is a huge percentage of risk here for the Texans, and that is perfectly fine. We will never know what the Texans would have done with those picks, so it's really pointless to think about. Once those drafts happen, you could easily find 3 players that they could have taken in each of those spots who will be studs, and you will also be able to find players in all three of those spots the Texans could have drafted that would completely bomb. The trick for the Texans is to keep the rest of the roster afloat, have Tunsil play extremely well, and win games. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, Forge said: For sure. Late round picks can certainly be overvalued - there are some big hits and big misses there. There's a good chance that you could brick all three selections quite easily. I think people just generally tend to be risk averse in trades - they want the total upside with none of the risk, which simply isn't feasible most of the time. Everyone should acknowledge that there is a huge percentage of risk here for the Texans, and that is perfectly fine. We will never know what the Texans would have done with those picks, so it's really pointless to think about. Once those drafts happen, you could easily find 3 players that they could have taken in each of those spots who will be studs, and you will also be able to find players in all three of those spots the Texans could have drafted that would completely bomb. The trick for the Texans is to keep the rest of the roster afloat, have Tunsil play extremely well, and win games. I'm out of footballs, but I owe you at least five for this. Very well said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 12 minutes ago, Ajayii said: 1. Apparently Stephen Ross, owner of the Dolphins, told coaches that he wants a QB. Rosen just so happened to be available and they took a shot. He may or may not be the QB of the future but they also have several other chances to try. Best case scenario is he's good and is flipped for picks in two years. 2. Tunsil is a great LT but you can't ignore two 1st round picks and a 2nd. The OL this year was going to be bad regardless if Tunsil stayed or not. I'm also assuming they didnt want to pay him. 3. Do you start the seasoned vet behind a bad OL or the young QB that you just bought who doesn't know how to recognize blitzes and throws late behind a bad OL? You're thinking about this year which is opposite of what Miami's front office is thinking. They're thinking 2-3 years from now. Tanking this year directly impacts your future years. If you finish dead last this year, you don't have to use the picks you just gained to get a franchise QB. If Ryan Fitzpatrick wins you 4+ games in a tanking year, you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 (edited) Texans had to do it. Their freaking division rival just saw what happens when you don’t protect a guy. Edited August 31, 2019 by candyman93 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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