Donzo Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, minnypackerfan said: On the Roster bonus due in March, the team did not need his permission to convert his roster bonus in March, but he objected to that idea when they told him so they did not do it. Somehow during this period, other teams were learning of the discord between the parties so first the Rams and then the 49'ers reached out to the Packers and inquired about Rodgers. The Rams reached out way back in February, the 49'ers just a week or two ago. Now how 2 west coast teams would even think to ask the Packers about Rodgers (which is where he wants to live), well it does not take much to add up where that came from.....Dunn. Rodgers knew of the 49'ers offer and apparently was pissed that the Packers did not take it and told them so. Once other teams know of the discord, its impossible to keep it totally quiet. But my bet is that Dunn started this whole ball a rolling. Its what agents do. I doubt that Packers leaked this as what was their motivation. Dunn on the other hand does this for a living. Rodgers just hoped it would it would never come back to him...ruins the image he is attempting to cultivate. Good stuff, but not completely on point. The Packers play the game by leaking things to the press about AR. Two years agao, Murphy's comments to AR about the new coach, then the news a couple weeks ago about the Packers being handcuffed over ARs conctract issues came from the Packers. Not Dunn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 56 minutes ago, Donzo said: Wow, what ridiculous nonsense that is. Just look at the comps... Comare what teams like the Bucs, Rams, 49ers and Chiefs did to win now, then compare that to the Packers. Chiefs lost this off-season: Eric Fisher, Mitchell Schwartz, Sammy Watkins, Bashaud Breeland, Alex Okafor, Damien Williams, Damien Wilson, Austin Reiter, Anthony Sherman, Kelechi Osemele, Tanoh, Kilgore, Wisnewski, Mike Pennel, picks 31, 94, 136, their 5th round pick next year and Leveon Bell. They got: Orlando Brown, Joe Thuney, Jarran Reed, Austin Blythe, Blake Bell, Jerrick McKinnon, Michael Burton, and the Ravens 2nd round pick next year. +++ Rams lost this off-season: Jared Goff, Michael Brockers, Austin Blythe, Troy Hill, Malcolm Brown, Gerald Everett, Derek Rivers, Morgan Fox, Josh Johnson, Josh Reynolds, Samson Eubakam They got: Matt Stafford, Desean Jackson +++ Bucs signed one free agent. Giovanni Bernard. +++ What did the 49ers do that was such a win now move? You like that secondary combined with a rookie QB? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minnypackerfan Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Donzo said: Good stuff, but not completely on point. The Packers play the game by leaking things to the press about AR. Two years agao, Murphy's comments to AR about the new coach, then the news a couple weeks ago about the Packers being handcuffed over ARs conctract issues came from the Packers. Not Dunn. I agree that both parties probably leak things and the Murphy comment from 2 years ago probably had to come from inside the Packer organization. But look at this particular situation and look at the motivation of the 2 parties involved. In my opinion, the Packers have blundered the handling Rodgers this offseason after an MVP year. But leaking that Rodgers never wants to play for the Packers again and wants to be traded...that is the stuff of an agent. Happens all the time. Rodgers is upset that his stance has gone public. Edited May 2, 2021 by minnypackerfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donzo Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, minnypackerfan said: He wanted the Packers to show their commitment to him by offering him an EXTENSION of the contract... he wanted a commitment and did not get it. Fair enough. From how I read it, the Packers wanted to be able to keep things year to year, and AR wanted a longer commitment. The Packers pushed back, then AR shutdown and now wants out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransientTexan Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 26 minutes ago, minnypackerfan said: Rodgers knew of the 49'ers offer and apparently was pissed that the Packers did not take it and told them so. GB literally did not have any cap space to receive any assets from SF. Their current space is already reserved for their own picks. Even just the 2021 #3 SF pick would be a $5-6m cap hit that they would have to find space for, not to mention the $1.2m hit from Rodgers' contract if traded now. And they already used up all of their options to clear cap space in March, except extending D.Adams or Z.Smith, which would take time and player cooperation to work out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donzo Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Chiefs lost this off-season: Eric Fisher, Mitchell Schwartz, Sammy Watkins, Bashaud Breeland, Alex Okafor, Damien Williams, Damien Wilson, Austin Reiter, Anthony Sherman, Kelechi Osemele, Tanoh, Kilgore, Wisnewski, Mike Pennel, picks 31, 94, 136, their 5th round pick next year and Leveon Bell. They got: Orlando Brown, Joe Thuney, Jarran Reed, Austin Blythe, Blake Bell, Jerrick McKinnon, Michael Burton, and the Ravens 2nd round pick next year. +++ Rams lost this off-season: Jared Goff, Michael Brockers, Austin Blythe, Troy Hill, Malcolm Brown, Gerald Everett, Derek Rivers, Morgan Fox, Josh Johnson, Josh Reynolds, Samson Eubakam They got: Matt Stafford, Desean Jackson +++ Bucs signed one free agent. Giovanni Bernard. +++ What did the 49ers do that was such a win now move? You like that secondary combined with a rookie QB? All nonsense. The Chiefs & Rams lost the off seaon? lol... Yeah, the Bucs signed one FA- that's all they did- lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemike778 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Donzo said: Wow, what ridiculous nonsense that is. Just look at the comps... Comare what teams like the Bucs, Rams, 49ers and Chiefs did to win now, then compare that to the Packers. Eh ? What did you want them to do ? Seriously. Virtually every player we could have a buy now pay next year deal we could do, we have done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spilltray Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Donzo said: Fair enough. From how I read it, the Packers wanted to be able to keep things year to year, and AR wanted a longer commitment. The Packers pushed back, then AR shutdown and now wants out. Pretty much. Too bad. The cap hit and the cap reduction this year make it virtually impossible to do pre June 1, and after that it makes no sense for the Packers to trade Rodgers. They would get no return until next year and any picks probably end up being at the end of the round not the top. Bottom line is he is under contract 3 more years and his only cards to play are retiring or this PR campaign. He has no leverage. If he retires, the Packers can recoup his signing bonus and are in amazing cap shape, and they can probably still move him for a good return after the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 minute ago, TransientTexan said: GB literally did not have any cap space to receive any assets from SF. Their current space is already reserved for their own picks. Even just the 2021 #3 SF pick would be a $5-6m cap hit that they would have to find space for, not to mention the $1.2m hit from Rodgers' contract if traded now. And they already used up all of their options to clear cap space in March, except extending D.Adams or Z.Smith, which would take time and player cooperation to work out. No, no TT. This clearly goes against the "GB isnt doing anything to win now" mantra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuFF Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Donzo said: All nonsense. The Chiefs & Rams lost the off seaon? lol... Yeah, the Bucs signed one FA- that's all they did- lol The Bucs did basically the same thing the Packers did this offseason - push cap space into the future to re-sign a bunch of their own guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 I'm not seeing a lot of links 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, spilltray said: Pretty much. Too bad. The cap hit and the cap reduction this year make it virtually impossible to do pre June 1, and after that it makes no sense for the Packers to trade Rodgers. They would get no return until next year and any picks probably end up being at the end of the round not the top. Bottom line is he is under contract 3 more years and his only cards to play are retiring or this PR campaign. He has no leverage. If he retires, the Packers can recoup his signing bonus and are in amazing cap shape, and they can probably still move him for a good return after the season. I'm tellin ya....trade him to the expansion Budapest Express for their top 10 draft picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 minute ago, incognito_man said: I'm not seeing a lot of links I don't use that option. But I am skimming over quite a bit. I am not a fish, I don't like bait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donzo Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, minnypackerfan said: But leaking that Rodgers never wants to play for the Packers again and wants to be traded... that is the stuff of an agent. Happens all the time. Rodgers is upset that his stance has gone public. From what I undertsand, as we've touched on, is the AR info has been out there for a while. It wasn't just leaked on Thursday. Why Schefty went public with the info on Thursady, who knows. We do know the Packers started complaining about AR's negotions to the press two weeks ago when the reports came out they could do thing because of ARs stalled negotiations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathstar Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 I cannot tell you all how good the ignore feature is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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