bucsfan333 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, TB Doug22 said: Good move. Leaves plenty of room for Brady now in the Ring of Honor. And BA. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingone Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, RuskieTitan said: When I first heard the email story last week, my thought was, "Who else was on that email chain"? And frankly, at this point it's not a question of if but rather who else is part of this. Saw that the NFLPA wants all the emails released; the NFL so far is pushing back. But given that the NFL (who else?) leaked the Gruden news, they had to know that pandora's box was opened. Gruden is not an isolated case where he was spewing rhetoric for years. This has the potential to grow into one of the biggest scandals in the history of the NFL, and if the league thought they could control this narrative and limit it to just Gruden, they are mistaken. I believe 650k emails were part of the deposition and the communication between Allen and Gruden was the only issue, not buying it either. The cheerleader accusations have been around for years. We're supposed to believe all those accusations were false. Not a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlowe22 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 14 minutes ago, RuskieTitan said: When I first heard the email story last week, my thought was, "Who else was on that email chain"? And frankly, at this point it's not a question of if but rather who else is part of this. Saw that the NFLPA wants all the emails released; the NFL so far is pushing back. But given that the NFL (who else?) leaked the Gruden news, they had to know that pandora's box was opened. Gruden is not an isolated case where he was spewing rhetoric for years. This has the potential to grow into one of the biggest scandals in the history of the NFL, and if the league thought they could control this narrative and limit it to just Gruden, they are mistaken. The NFL should release everything if they're gonna release anything. Don't try to protect guys Goodell likes and single out the ones he doesn't. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 30 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said: Antonio Brown is on the team though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 30 minutes ago, AP_allday2869 said: Wow. This is huge Didn't he get inducted during a MNF game in Tampa? Oof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeTheBallDeep Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Lavar Arrington brought up a good point today, who was on the receiving end of these emails? Gruden obviously felt perfectly comfortable using the language he did which probably means the people he was speaking with shared the same beliefs…if so they should be exposed as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 1 minute ago, MikeT14 said: Antonio Brown is on the team though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamKid Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Just now, MikeT14 said: Antonio Brown is on the team though. Didn't Carlton Davis spew some wacked out anti-asian BS earlier this year too? It's funny watching these NFL clubs posture themselves as righteous when there's a dopey & valueless guy like Gruden, but boy oh boy do they not want a true purity/morality test run on their rosters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, MikeT14 said: Antonio Brown is on the team though. Someone said this elsewhere: Quote Antonio Brown had a very credible accusation of rape, and even mocked her through text messages to intimidate her. Called his GM a cracker. Was accused of sexual assault from other people as well. And yet Tom Brady vouched for him and wanted him on the team. He was on stage during the SuperBowl. It’s funny that in this day and age, words are irredeemable (unless you’re Desean Jackson). But rape, assault, and murder (Ray Lewis?) somehow are. Maybe we should just admit people only care about morals in sports if they think losing that person wouldn’t impact the team. I think it's true sadly. Winning sports games...or being entertaining to people in a way that benefits them (people feel better about their own lives when a sports team they're invested in brings them joy i.e. "wins") has a way of brushing a lot of crap under the rug before accountability comes into the equation. I think Kobe Bryant God rest his soul is the biggest example of that. People even get defensive if you even question a lot of their prized angels that they themselves have decided to place on a pedestal essentially creating an unrealistic fantasy world with their deity on the throne. When you mess with that fantasy world, people may respond in kind with venom. They don't want anyone bringing down the walls of their fairy tale, and are apt to fight tooth and nail to maintain it's integrity. Would be cool if more people had the cognizant ability to step back at a certain point and say: Edited October 12, 2021 by TecmoSuperJoe 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Someone else needs to get a hold of these emails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, MikeT14 said: Someone else needs to get a hold of these emails. Probably already been vanquished to the sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruber74 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Urban Myer: "No coach could have a worse week than I've had." Jon Gruden: "Hold my beer." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar12 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 What a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Blackstar12 said: What a joke. Wonder how many other owners/teams are involved. I'd guess enough that people believe it'll deeply hurt the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kael Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 24 minutes ago, Jlowe22 said: The NFL should release everything if they're gonna release anything. Don't try to protect guys Goodell likes and single out the ones he doesn't. They should, but they are not going to. The goal is to limit any exposure by the owners. Throwing a coach under the bus is nothing. Protecting the actual powers that be is everything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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