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10 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said:

I like it a lot imo. We're not going to let you disrespect the team. Mayock has balls and that's what we need from a GM. Reggie would have done the exact opposite.

Holding players accountable.

It’ll never catch on...

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42 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said:

I like it a lot imo. We're not going to let you disrespect the team. Mayock has balls and that's what we need from a GM. Reggie would have done the exact opposite.

I want to see Carr, Mayock and Gruden succeed. I really do. But there's no way this dude doesn't set the city on fire by the end of the season. Hopefully Mayock puts his foot down, because it looks like Gruden won't have the footballs to.

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13 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said:

I like it a lot imo. We're not going to let you disrespect the team. Mayock has balls and that's what we need from a GM. Reggie would have done the exact opposite.

Great move by Mayock, a move I would have loved the Steelers to do after the  facebook live incident of AB back in the 2016 playoffs, even if Brown would have been upset and he would have maybe wanted to leave the team after the 2016 season.

Sometimes, some players need to realize that you are not bigger than the team and you can't have too much freedom in this team.

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5 hours ago, CKS97 said:

 

Already on IR.... Out 8 games..... so far, he’s more fragile than Ki Jana Carter

It's definitely a valid concern, I'll admit. However, there is some context here. After all, the Patriots depth chart is full at receiver so this could be as much about that as it is any lingering ankle sprain or hamstring strain. It's worth noting N'Keal Harry in college was durable and reliable.

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17 hours ago, Kiltman said:

Truly have no clue on your end

But a healthy Carson is way better than Foles sans the last two games of 2017...which it’s hard to play better than that for anyone...and assuredly much better than him that day. Foles sucked most that game.

With your front Bush’s negative impact was smaller than in a vacuum as well.

Foles has been a better regular season QB as an Eagle than Wentz has in almost every statistical category.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/phi/career-passing.htm

This is BEFORE you add his playoff greatness.

Wentz has a 0.8% edge in completion percentage and Foles is better in everything else. (interception% is tied)

This includes things like sack rate, game winning drives, 4th quarter comebacks, rating, TD%, yards per pass, ANY/A, win percentage

 

You are just parroting lies that the moron media has told you. 

Its fine to want to keep Wentz for youth and upside, but Foles has been a better Eagles QB so far and its not really close. (when you add in playoffs)

No rational person can analyze those numbers I linked and say Wentz is clearly better.

 

 

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2 hours ago, SkippyX said:

Foles has been a better regular season QB as an Eagle than Wentz has in almost every statistical category.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/phi/career-passing.htm

This is BEFORE you add his playoff greatness.

Wentz has a 0.8% edge in completion percentage and Foles is better in everything else. (interception% is tied)

This includes things like sack rate, game winning drives, 4th quarter comebacks, rating, TD%, yards per pass, ANY/A, win percentage

You are just parroting lies that the moron media has told you. 

Its fine to want to keep Wentz for youth and upside, but Foles has been a better Eagles QB so far and its not really close. (when you add in playoffs)

No rational person can analyze those numbers I linked and say Wentz is clearly better.

It's odd how similar their careers have been for Philly. They both struggled their initial year, then exploded year 2 and regressed back after that. Wentz has struggled to stay healthy while Foles was relegated to a backup role or shipped elsewhere. I would agree that a healthy Wentz is better than Foles, but really that's been few and far between for Wentz at this point. 

Wentz Career

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Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD AV
Career       40 40 23-17-0 923 1448 63.7 10152 70 4.8 28 1.9 73 7.0 7.1 11.0 253.8 92.5   92 577 6.22 6.31 6.0 4 4
2016 24 PHI QB 11 16 16 7-9-0 379 607 62.4 3782 16 2.6 14 2.3 73 6.2 5.7 10.0 236.4 79.3 49.4 33 213 5.58 5.09 5.2 1 1 10
2017* 25 PHI QB 11 13 13 11-2-0 265 440 60.2 3296 33 7.5 7 1.6 72 7.5 8.3 12.4 253.5 101.9 77.2 28 162 6.70 7.43 6.0 1 1 14
2018 26 PHI QB 11 11 11 5-6-0 279 401 69.6 3074 21 5.2 7 1.7 58 7.7 7.9 11.0 279.5 102.2 64.9 31 202 6.65 6.89 7.2 2 2 9

Foles Career (removing STL and KC)

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Year Age
Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD AV
Career       54 44 26-18-0 974 1581 61.6 11165 68 4.3 33 2.1 83 7.1 7.0 11.5 206.8 88.5   89 601 6.33 6.25 5.3 8 10 30
5 yrs PHI     40 32 21-11-0 748 1189 62.9 8703 58 4.9 23 1.9 83 7.3 7.4 11.6 217.6 93.2   71 469 6.53 6.63 5.6 7 9 26
2012 23 PHI qb 9 7 6 1-5-0 161 265 60.8 1699 6 2.3 5 1.9 46 6.4 6.0 10.6 242.7 79.1 51.2 20 131 5.50 5.13 7.0 1 1 4
2013* 24 PHI QB 9 13 10 8-2-0 203 317 64.0 2891 27 8.5 2 0.6 63 9.1 10.5 14.2 222.4 119.2 71.5 28 173 7.88 9.18 8.1 1 1 11
2014 25 PHI QB 9 8 8 6-2-0 186 311 59.8 2163 13 4.2 10 3.2 68 7.0 6.3 11.6 270.4 81.4 64.1 9 74 6.53 5.93 2.8 2 3 5
2017 28 PHI qb 9 7 3 2-1-0 57 101 56.4 537 5 5.0 2 2.0 35 5.3 5.4 9.4 76.7 79.5 34.7 5 44 4.65 4.75 4.7 1 2 2
2018 29 PHI qb 9 5 5 4-1-0 141 195 72.3 1413 7 3.6 4 2.1 83 7.2 7.0 10.0 282.6 96.0 69.5 9 47 6.70 6.50 4.4 2 2 4

 

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2 hours ago, SkippyX said:

Foles has been a better regular season QB as an Eagle than Wentz has in almost every statistical category.

https://www.pro-football-

This is BEFORE you add his playoff greatness.

Wentz has a 0.8% edge in completion percentage and Foles is better in everything else. (interception% is tied)

This includes things like sack rate, game winning drives, 4th quarter comebacks, rating, TD%, yards per pass, ANY/A, win percentage

 

You are just parroting lies that the moron media has told you. 

Its fine to want to keep Wentz for youth and upside, but Foles has been a better Eagles QB so far and its not really close. (when you add in playoffs)

No rational person can analyze those numbers I linked and say Wentz is clearly better.

 

 

No I watch the games, football isn’t played in excel spreadsheets.

you can look at stats with no context and convince yourself of anything.

Like using their career numbers like this is silly. Wentz’ rookie numbers tank most of his stats considerably. He had half the touchdowns and twice the interceptions on a team that wasn’t very good. He had Ertz and his next best guys were Jordan Matthews and Dorian Green-Beckham. That’s the kind of context that’s probably relevant. 

Sure we can hold that against him, he played those games. But in an argument like this it’s silly, he was a rookie QB with really no help around him. 

I can also watch the Bears game and say Wentz probably has a decent shot to be better than Foles’ performance...which wasn’t all that good most of that game.

 

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3 hours ago, SkippyX said:

Foles has been a better regular season QB as an Eagle than Wentz has in almost every statistical category.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/phi/career-passing.htm

This is BEFORE you add his playoff greatness.

Wentz has a 0.8% edge in completion percentage and Foles is better in everything else. (interception% is tied)

This includes things like sack rate, game winning drives, 4th quarter comebacks, rating, TD%, yards per pass, ANY/A, win percentage

 

You are just parroting lies that the moron media has told you. 

Its fine to want to keep Wentz for youth and upside, but Foles has been a better Eagles QB so far and its not really close. (when you add in playoffs)

No rational person can analyze those numbers I linked and say Wentz is clearly better.

 

 

Wentz beats Foles 11 times out of 10 when you look at what they did side by side. Can't wait for the season to start so all the mouth breathing Folesians will realize reality.

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4 minutes ago, Danger said:

Wentz beats Foles 11 times out of 10 when you look at what they did side by side. Can't wait for the season to start so all the mouth breathing Folesians will realize reality.

Between that and the Dak stuff, I’m just over it

I don’t have the mental energy anymore 

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Statistics are often times lies, because people will go out of their way to seek out statistics to validate their preconceived notion, and if they find that it does not fit their agenda, they'll discount it and look for something else. Statistics without context are absurdities.

I can make statistical magic too, look what happens when you throw out the one fluke year Foles had 27:2 when no one actually understood what the hell Chip Kelly was doing. 

Here are his numbers:

45 games- 
761/1264 (60.2%) - 8274 Yards (6.5 YPA) - 41 TD (3.2%) - 30 INT (2.4%) - 80.5 Passer Rating 

More games played than TDs thrown. among many other unimpressive statistics.

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