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2019 Week 2 PACKERS vs vikings GAME DAY THREAD

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OneTwoSixFive

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1 minute ago, Cpdaly23 said:

Was excited to come here and celebrate a big division win against a team some have winning the NFC.  This thread could be used as exhibit A when arguing how spoiled the fan base has become.  

I'm pretty sure most of us feel pretty good about the win, but more than anything it is adversity and negative things, that persuade posters to post.

Just for the record, I'm delighted with the win, 2-10 against these tough teams and both wins against divisional opponents which (considering the strength in this division) is key. We have a defense at last and the O is showing signs of life. I still believe the no.1 offense not playing in preseason hurt the meshing of its parts, but a few games will cure that.

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31 minutes ago, Donzo said:

18 games into his career, MVS has 45 receptions. He could have had more, but Rodgers missed him a lot last year, and he hardly played hist first four games in 2018.

That's better production that an average 5th rounder.

Ok. Good point. I'm not saying I don't like MVS or that he or a lot of these other guys don't have promise. But when the window is closing, how long can you wait for promise to pay off? I'm just not seeing anyone stand out right now. Totally willing to eat all the crow if that changes over the season. 

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AlexGreen#20

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The problem with the offense starting after the 3rd drive was just inefficient football.

4th drive: Allison fumble. Whatever. **** happens.

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5th drive: Jones run up the middle for 5 yards. Jones run up the middle for 4 yards.

3rd and 1. Come out with 22 personnel. Tonyan on the left, Lewis on the right. The Vikings have 10 defenders, literally both safeties in the box. We do the most predictable thing ever and run the zone lead behind Lewis. Jones gets stuffed at the line. Punt the ball away on 4th and 1.

Badly predictable play call on 3rd and short, and a bad decision to punt on 4th and short.

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 6th drive: Adams gets the false start. Run a 2-man play action route out of max protect that sees Rodgers hold it for 5 seconds before throwing it to a covered Adams.  

Run 3 WRs to the right, Graham to the left. Graham gets a corner on him, Kumerow as the innermost receiver gets a linebacker. Try to run a bubble screen to MVS despite Kendricks and both CBs being 5 yards off the line of scrimmage. Blocking is terrible, end up losing 4. 

Nobody open, tries to check it down to Graham but ends up getting hit.

Commit the penalty to put yourself behind schedule. Come out with a bad personnel grouping and play call for being behind schedule. Make a terrible read on not changing the bubble screen.

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7th drive: Jones run up the middle for 4. Jones run up the middle for 4.

3rd and 2. Run the same flare screen to the slot receiver that failed against Chicago, this time with Allison in that spot and not Graham. Same result. No gain.

4th and 2. Come out with 11 personnel in twins. Line the slot receiver on the left side really close to the tackle so that his DB needs to be accounted for in the zone blocking and then run to that side. Be surprised when 4 defenders fill 4 gaps and there's nowhere for Jones to go on 4th down.

Running the same failed short yardage play on 3rd and 2, and just not understanding spacing on 4th and 2. At least we went for it. 

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8th drive:

Rodgers has Davante Adams wide open on a slant and just doesn't throw the ball for no reason. Ends up throwing it away.

Screen Pass gets sniffed out. It happens. 

3rd and 16 from our own 24 with 35 seconds left in the half and we end up doing a roll out that ends in a throw away. 

QB not making throws, and a bad decision to pass instead of run out the clock/Vikings timeouts on 3rd and 16

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9th drive:

Too many men in the huddle penalty.

Pitch for 4 yards to get it to 2nd and 11.

Dump off to the RB to get it to 3rd and 8.

Linsley snaps the ball to Rodgers feet. 

Stupid pre-snap penalty and a bad snap. 

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10th drive: Come out in 13 personnel.

Williams run up the middle for 3 yards.

Run empty backfield with Davante Adams as the only receiver on the field. Nobody is open with 3 TEs running routes.

Jones and Graham miscommunicate on the blitz pickup and Rodgers chooses to hold the ball despite having Geronimo Allison in the slot get an inside release against Cover-2 with blitzing ILBs. Graham gets charged for the sack here but he thought he had Jones to help him and Rodgers deserved to get clocked here for holding it anyway. 

DON'T PLAY 13 PERSONNEL. Rodgers, throw the ******* ball. 

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11th drive: 

Screen pass gets sniffed out.

Jones run up the middle on 2nd down for a gain of 4.

Rodgers throws the beautiful ball to MVS down the middle which gets tipped out of his hands.

2nd and long run is going to give me drinking problems.

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12th drive:

Screen pass gets sniffed out.

Graham gets called for the softest OPI ever.

Rodgers gets sacked on 2nd and 20.

Throw the dump off to Kumerow for 13 on 3rd and 28. 

We've got a hard on for screen passes which aren't working, but the bad OPI call kills this drive.

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13th drive: 

Play action 2-route max protect. Rodgers throws a terrible ball to MVS which sees him get carried out of bounds.

Kendricks makes a great play in coverage to break up a really good looking wheel route.

Underneath cross to MVS gets 8 on 3rd nad 10.

The 2-Man route conceps are going to be an adjustment for me. Rodgers throwing balls high and too far outside is something I'm unfortunately all too familiar with.

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14th drive: 

We got two first downs in a 4 minute offense setting and held the ball until they only had 15 seconds left in the game. I really liked the call to throw to Davante on the slant in the second sequence. 

This was an impressive drive. 

 

 

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22 minutes ago, OneTwoSixFive said:

 You said "I just don’t buy any of the talent behind Adams."  That is a blanket dismissal of all the other WRs that denies both talent and promise.

I'm not calling this group "A superbowl tier WR corps" and I don't think anyone is, so I'll wave off the strawman argument.  This group is largely young and ascending with intriguing potential and have shown flashes of what they might become. What you are "not buying" is like a prototype that has yet to be fully tested. It might be excellent, it might have a lot of flaws. It is too early to dismiss this group.

Largely young yes. Isn't anyone/everyone "ascending" if they haven't been cut?  Promise? Sure. But define promise? Better than another teams 4th or 5th worst guy? Able to make a catch once in awhile? Fast? Shifty? 

What I'm "not buying" is no one is stepping forward. Period. Don't get me wrong, I totally appreciate your optimism. I guess my point is that I'm wanting a guy to show up sooner than later and thus far it doesn't feel like that is happening. Thus far in two games, Davis, Kumerow, Sheppard, et. al have barely seen the field. MVS has been mostly quiet but probably the closest thing to a #2. Allison made a great catch today, and then a really bad fumble. And dang man, he's SO slow.

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