mistakey Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Chiefs_5627 said: Has Greedy been good so far? Haven't kept up very Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENINCH Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 2 hours ago, sdrawkcab321 said: yes please Ramsey said he wants to win. Browns are out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 41 minutes ago, DawgX said: Lot of smoke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soflbillsfan Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 (edited) Dallas can't afford him even if they wanted to...With Dak and Cooper likely signing big deals I do not even see them able to pay Byron let alone Ramsey. Everyone who says he doesnt want to play in a zone its BS, just an excuse for him to want out. every team plays zone and man at times. He has been talking about moving on for awhile now he clearly doesnt like the regime and they arent going to pay him with a year left on his contract so hes finding a way out that is more mature then AB pulled. I think they end up moving him to an NFC team like Minny or Philly if they can afford to pay him the 80+ mil he is seeking. Also he may be like Clowney where he refuses to play for certain teams and not agree to an extension which will turn teams off from giving up 2 first rd picks or a 1st and a player for him. Edited September 19, 2019 by soflbillsfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 2 hours ago, sdrawkcab321 said: yes please Why? Wilks runs a zone-heavy scheme. It's already misusing Ward's skillset. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D82 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, soflbillsfan said: Dallas can't afford him even if they wanted to...With Dak and Cooper likely signing big deals I do not even see them able to pay Byron let alone Ramsey *sigh* We can re-sign Dak and Amari and still have $20MM or so in cap room to work with next year. If Dallas wants to re-sign Byron, we will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 I get that it's easy to blame Jalen for this because he's an outspoken player, but this is clearly a Jaguars management issue that starts with Tom Coughlin and goes all the way down. Evidence: Following the 2017 season, the Jaguars wanted to resign Allen Robinson. They offered him a deal that turned out to be identical to the deal he took from the Bears to leave. Sources later came out with rumors that Robinson hated the team and was going to do anything he could to leave. Many brushed these off as rumors, but it fits with the pattern we would see later. In early 2018, they restructured Marcedes Lewis's deal to free cap space. Within a month, Marcedes - who is normally a completely softspoken player - had a massive argument with the front office about a roster decision and asked to be released. In the middle of the 2018 season, Dante Fowler was traded to the Rams. After being traded, Fowler went on a rant about how he was treated by the Jaguars front office after his injury, claiming that they treated him like he didn't belong as part of the team. Near the end of the 2018 season, Malik Jackson became increasingly angry at the team for how he was handled as a member of the team. He made it clear that the team wasn't treating him with respect as he thought he deserved and felt like he was no longer a member of the team. After the 2018 season, the Jaguars removed the guarantee language from Leonard Fournette's contract. The Jaguars and Fournette had a meeting to discuss this. The Jaguars followed up with a press conference in which they stated that the team and Fournette had come to a complete understanding. Two hours later, Fournette filed a lawsuit against the team for breach of contract. During voluntary workouts, Ramsey was working with his dad, as he does every year. Coughlin took to the media to berate Ramsey for not showing up to - again - voluntary workouts. In late April, Telvin Smith decided to take the year off. While not a lot is known about why he is taking the year off, other than him stating he wants to focus on himself, what is known is that he refused to talk to the team about why he was taking time off. While several sources were able to find out about the hiatus before it happened, the Jaguars front office remained in the dark until he made the announcement. As if Telvin was fed up with the team. The team later fined Telvin for not showing up to mandatory camp, despite knowing he was taking the year off. Jalen went to the team to ask for a contract extension and was told that under no circumstance would he get a contract this year. Yannick Ngakoue held out asking for a new contract. The team was unable to come to terms, and Yan returned to the team stating that he didn't know if he would ever get an extension from the team. The team instead chose to give Myles Jack a brand new contract that paid him the third-highest AAV in the league's history. After their big argument on Sunday, both Doug Marrone and Jalen stated that they had not spoken since then. During Jalen's press conference, multiple Jaguars players sat in with the media - including Myles Jack. That never happens, and really can only be viewed as a show of solidarity with Ramsey. And now it came out that Jalen requested a trade because of something Tom Coughlin said to him after the game. And Alfie Crow is reporting that Jalen isn't the only player currently extremely frustrated with Coughlin. What a complete disaster of an organization top to bottom. Coughlin is a joke. Shad Khan is a joke for not stepping in and dealing with this before it got this far. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 I dont understand why everyone thinks trading him to an AFC team is such a big deal. We’re not in a playoff contending mode until Foles is healthy and even that is shaky at best when you dont know if hes that good plus his health plus you traded an elite defender so how good will your defense even be? Get the most you can from whoever you can no matter what, if you’re deciding to trade him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, pwny said: I get that it's easy to blame Jalen for this because he's an outspoken player, but this is clearly a Jaguars management issue that starts with Tom Coughlin and goes all the way down. Evidence: Following the 2017 season, the Jaguars wanted to resign Allen Robinson. They offered him a deal that turned out to be identical to the deal he took from the Bears to leave. Sources later came out with rumors that Robinson hated the team and was going to do anything he could to leave. Many brushed these off as rumors, but it fits with the pattern we would see later. In early 2018, they restructured Marcedes Lewis's deal to free cap space. Within a month, Marcedes - who is normally a completely softspoken player - had a massive argument with the front office about a roster decision and asked to be released. In the middle of the 2018 season, Dante Fowler was traded to the Rams. After being traded, Fowler went on a rant about how he was treated by the Jaguars front office after his injury, claiming that they treated him like he didn't belong as part of the team. Near the end of the 2018 season, Malik Jackson became increasingly angry at the team for how he was handled as a member of the team. He made it clear that the team wasn't treating him with respect as he thought he deserved and felt like he was no longer a member of the team. After the 2018 season, the Jaguars removed the guarantee language from Leonard Fournette's contract. The Jaguars and Fournette had a meeting to discuss this. The Jaguars followed up with a press conference in which they stated that the team and Fournette had come to a complete understanding. Two hours later, Fournette filed a lawsuit against the team for breach of contract. During voluntary workouts, Ramsey was working with his dad, as he does every year. Coughlin took to the media to berate Ramsey for not showing up to - again - voluntary workouts. In late April, Telvin Smith decided to take the year off. While not a lot is known about why he is taking the year off, other than him stating he wants to focus on himself, what is known is that he refused to talk to the team about why he was taking time off. While several sources were able to find out about the hiatus before it happened, the Jaguars front office remained in the dark until he made the announcement. As if Telvin was fed up with the team. The team later fined Telvin for not showing up to mandatory camp, despite knowing he was taking the year off. Jalen went to the team to ask for a contract extension and was told that under no circumstance would he get a contract this year. Yannick Ngakoue held out asking for a new contract. The team was unable to come to terms, and Yan returned to the team stating that he didn't know if he would ever get an extension from the team. The team instead chose to give Myles Jack a brand new contract that paid him the third-highest AAV in the league's history. After their big argument on Sunday, both Doug Marrone and Jalen stated that they had not spoken since then. During Jalen's press conference, multiple Jaguars players sat in with the media - including Myles Jack. And now it came out that Jalen requested a trade because of something Tom Coughlin said to him after the game. And Alfie Crow is reporting that Jalen isn't the only player currently extremely frustrated with Coughlin. What a complete disaster of an organization top to bottom. Coughlin is a joke. Damn, dude, I'm sorry. I'd like to see the Jags succeed. I've always had a soft spot for them. It's too bad Coughlin has only made things more dysfunctional. Y'all have to find some stability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Hope- Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 39 minutes ago, pwny said: I get that it's easy to blame Jalen for this because he's an outspoken player, but this is clearly a Jaguars management issue that starts with Tom Coughlin and goes all the way down. Evidence: Following the 2017 season, the Jaguars wanted to resign Allen Robinson. They offered him a deal that turned out to be identical to the deal he took from the Bears to leave. Sources later came out with rumors that Robinson hated the team and was going to do anything he could to leave. Many brushed these off as rumors, but it fits with the pattern we would see later. In early 2018, they restructured Marcedes Lewis's deal to free cap space. Within a month, Marcedes - who is normally a completely softspoken player - had a massive argument with the front office about a roster decision and asked to be released. In the middle of the 2018 season, Dante Fowler was traded to the Rams. After being traded, Fowler went on a rant about how he was treated by the Jaguars front office after his injury, claiming that they treated him like he didn't belong as part of the team. Near the end of the 2018 season, Malik Jackson became increasingly angry at the team for how he was handled as a member of the team. He made it clear that the team wasn't treating him with respect as he thought he deserved and felt like he was no longer a member of the team. After the 2018 season, the Jaguars removed the guarantee language from Leonard Fournette's contract. The Jaguars and Fournette had a meeting to discuss this. The Jaguars followed up with a press conference in which they stated that the team and Fournette had come to a complete understanding. Two hours later, Fournette filed a lawsuit against the team for breach of contract. During voluntary workouts, Ramsey was working with his dad, as he does every year. Coughlin took to the media to berate Ramsey for not showing up to - again - voluntary workouts. In late April, Telvin Smith decided to take the year off. While not a lot is known about why he is taking the year off, other than him stating he wants to focus on himself, what is known is that he refused to talk to the team about why he was taking time off. While several sources were able to find out about the hiatus before it happened, the Jaguars front office remained in the dark until he made the announcement. As if Telvin was fed up with the team. The team later fined Telvin for not showing up to mandatory camp, despite knowing he was taking the year off. Jalen went to the team to ask for a contract extension and was told that under no circumstance would he get a contract this year. Yannick Ngakoue held out asking for a new contract. The team was unable to come to terms, and Yan returned to the team stating that he didn't know if he would ever get an extension from the team. The team instead chose to give Myles Jack a brand new contract that paid him the third-highest AAV in the league's history. After their big argument on Sunday, both Doug Marrone and Jalen stated that they had not spoken since then. During Jalen's press conference, multiple Jaguars players sat in with the media - including Myles Jack. That never happens, and really can only be viewed as a show of solidarity with Ramsey. And now it came out that Jalen requested a trade because of something Tom Coughlin said to him after the game. And Alfie Crow is reporting that Jalen isn't the only player currently extremely frustrated with Coughlin. What a complete disaster of an organization top to bottom. Coughlin is a joke. Shad Khan is a joke for not stepping in and dealing with this before it got this far. yeesh. sounds like coughlin thinks it's still the 80s or something. this my-way-or-the-highway type stuff just plain doesn't work today. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBreezy Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, -Hope- said: yeesh. sounds like coughlin thinks it's still the 80s or something. this my-way-or-the-highway type stuff just plain doesn't work today. Definitely this. His hardo/stressed old man schtick definitely worked when he was a coach, but as a front office member (where he’s not around the players enough) it’s probably too intrusive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackywabbit Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 On 9/18/2019 at 2:39 PM, SBLIII said: The best reason given for why the Ravens aren't a top contender (despite all the football reasons in favor of them) is that the FO values draft picks too much... Do other teams not value draft picks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBLIII Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Just now, wackywabbit said: The best reason given for why the Ravens aren't a top contender (despite all the football reasons in favor of them) is that the FO values draft picks too much... Do other teams not value draft picks? most of our picks are busts anyway so I don't see why we would value them tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Sounds like the Jags are even more dysfunctional than the Raiders... Dysfunction is different than bad. At least Miami has a plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Dianna✔@diannaESPN There are teams interested in trading with the Jacksonville Jaguars for Jalen Ramsey. This is what I am told has been offered so far: a 1st in 2020 & 5th in 2021 from an NFC team and a 1st in 2020 & a player from an AFC team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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