Ragnar Danneskjold Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 1 minute ago, PossibleCabbage said: Reports are coming out that what Rodgers really wants is Gutey gone. I'm okay with moving on from any combination of Murphy, Gutekunst, and Rodgers. What is his deal with Gutekunst? Is it just the Love pick, or more than that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossibleCabbage Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Just now, Ragnar Danneskjold said: What is his deal with Gutekunst? Is it just the Love pick, or more than that? From what I can glean, it's that Gutey didn't give him any sort of advance warning that they might take a quarterback in 2020, and he felt entitled to at least be prepared for that possibility by the organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isherwood Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, PossibleCabbage said: Reports are coming out that what Rodgers really wants is Gutey gone. I'm okay with moving on from any combination of Murphy, Gutekunst, and Rodgers. I don’t know if I really believe this isn’t just part of the tantrum, but lol they’re not firing Gute for one guy. Send him to Denver for whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossibleCabbage Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 It does seem like "one grown adult is very angry with another grown adult" should be the sort of thing that two people can just work out. It's not like anybody died or any crimes were committed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 15 hours ago, Chili said: The whole "retirement" story is completely bogus. Rodgers has made it very clear he wants to play into his 40's. Why are we all of a sudden believing the retirement rumors. Please. obviously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 I still see this saga 3 months from now ending with a Rodgers extension and 12 saying all these reports were "way over embellished or untrue." (Whether they were at the time or not). I'm 75% sure that's how this all ends. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, packfanfb said: I still see this saga 3 months from now ending with a Rodgers extension and 12 saying all these reports were "way over embellished or untrue." (Whether they were at the time or not). I'm 75% sure that's how this all ends. That’s where I’m at but can’t forget Rodgers has a history of falling out with some people. His fault or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Danneskjold Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 1 minute ago, PossibleCabbage said: From what I can glean, it's that Gutey didn't give him any sort of advance warning that they might take a quarterback in 2020, and he felt entitled to at least be prepared for that possibility by the organization. I find it hard to buy into those reports I guess. Rodgers has to recognize that Gute has made decisions like the hiring of Lafleur that have worked out pretty well for him. I put a post in the NFL news version of this thread that I will paraphrase here: I think Rodgers really wanted to beat Brady in the NFC championship game because for his legacy he knows he can't catch him statistically, so beating him head to head multiple times would help his legacy. Rodgers recognizes that he is at the point in his career where he can improve his chances of obtaining multiple goals by forcing a trade where he gets the money out of the contract but can play at a low cap hit until his next deal. He can go to a well stocked team that just needs a QB, play at a low percentage of the cap so it stays well stocked, potentially win another Super Bowl or two, and be in a more desirable location than Green Bay. I think this is a more calculated move than is being portrayed by his camp. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpdaly23 Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ragnar Danneskjold said: I find it hard to buy into those reports I guess. Rodgers has to recognize that Gute has made decisions like the hiring of Lafleur that have worked out pretty well for him. I put a post in the NFL news version of this thread that I will paraphrase here: I think Rodgers really wanted to beat Brady in the NFC championship game because for his legacy he knows he can't catch him statistically, so beating him head to head multiple times would help his legacy. Rodgers recognizes that he is at the point in his career where he can improve his chances of obtaining multiple goals by forcing a trade where he gets the money out of the contract but can play at a low cap hit until his next deal. He can go to a well stocked team that just needs a QB, play at a low percentage of the cap so it stays well stocked, potentially win another Super Bowl or two, and be in a more desirable location than Green Bay. I think this is a more calculated move than is being portrayed by his camp. Not buying it. If he demanded a trade in January, the chances of getting it would be substantially higher than they are now. This relationship deteriorated recently- probably within the last month, as reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddfather Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, packfanfb said: I still see this saga 3 months from now ending with a Rodgers extension and 12 saying all these reports were "way over embellished or untrue." (Whether they were at the time or not). I'm 75% sure that's how this all ends. pretty much this. Aaron got to get his draft day revenge. He got Gutey to acknowledge last year wasn't handled well while totally getting his presser hijacked as Wisconsin burnt to the ground. All in all I would say 12 got what he wanted out of the whole thing. Now its time to let the air clear, sit down at the table, get the extension, the guarantee from the franchise and concentrate on bringing a Lombardi home... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ragnar Danneskjold said: He can go to a well stocked team that just needs a QB, play at a low percentage of the cap so it stays well stocked, potentially win another Super Bowl or two, and be in a more desirable location than Green Bay. He's already on a well stocked roster........and team.....thats doing contorsions trying to keep talent around him while his cap % goes up. Again - I feel the COVID cap crunch was really (really) badly timed in relation to ARs contract increases coming due. He wants to play for less....he's always free to chime in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 27 minutes ago, Mr. Fussnputz said: Budapest is a cool place, although its politics is messed up right now. So is San Francisco, but Rodgers wants to go there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Danneskjold Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Leader said: He's already on a well stocked roster........and team.....thats doing contorsions trying to keep talent around him while his cap % goes up. Again - I feel the COVID cap crunch was really (really) badly timed in relation to ARs contract increases coming due. He wants to play for less....he's always free to chime in. Is it though? His defense is suspect, and has been for most of his career. I think he wants to pull off what Brady did- get a team with a top defense where he can provide the offensive punch to be dominant team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, Cpdaly23 said: Not buying it. If he demanded a trade in January, the chances of getting it would be substantially higher than they are now. This relationship deteriorated recently- probably within the last month, as reported. But what would have happened in the last month to cause that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 24 minutes ago, PossibleCabbage said: Reports are coming out that what Rodgers really wants is Gutey gone. I'm okay with moving on from any combination of Murphy, Gutekunst, and Rodgers. Gutekunst made the Love pick. Wouldn't be surprising Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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