Rodjahs12 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 This being about Love or Rodgers would both suck because it says bad things about both. Frankly there's zero good spin to be made about this signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, Rodjahs12 said: This being about Love or Rodgers would both suck because it says bad things about both. Frankly there's zero good spin to be made about this signing. Packers wanted a camp arm, we got a camp arm with a name. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodjahs12 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 16 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Packers wanted a camp arm, we got a camp arm with a name. I mean how often do we bother to do that though. Vince Young is one I can think of, but as far as I remember that was an outlier at the time as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Rodjahs12 said: I mean how often do we bother to do that though. Vince Young is one I can think of, but as far as I remember that was an outlier at the time as well. There are not many camp arms familiar with this offense. Bortles is a good fit because he has history with our OC and won't derail a practice because he doesn't know what's going on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodjahs12 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Just now, incognito_man said: There are not many camp arms familiar with this offense. Bortles is a good fit because he has history with our OC and won't derail a practice because he doesn't know what's going on. Alright this I can get behind. I guess at best this is a nothing move which is certainly better than either of the alternatives. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSG Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Leader said: You've absolutely no basis for reaching that conclusion. None. Let the guy actually play some NFL games before you declare him DOA. But it's not that baseless of a conclusion. It's not hard to look at the abomination that was Jordan Love's 2019 season and come away having major doubts about his success at the next level. This was a guy who was as bad of a decision maker at his position as anyone in college football the last time we seen him throw a meaningful pass. Sure he wasn't surrounded by elite talent but he also didn't play against it either. I don't think you can place blame on the talent that was around him while failing to acknowledge that he was playing against that same caliber of talent. Jordan Love certainly has the tools to be a franchise QB if he's able to fix the issue that's between his ears. I don't like the success rate of QBs coming into the NFL with MAJOR flaws in their decision making. I think it's chicken **** to put all the blame for his 2019 season at the feet of an OC or the guys around him simply because he's a Packer. That OC wasn't a crutch when people were evaluating Deshone Kizer's flaws as a prospect. It's a little concerning to hear Gutekunst say that Jordan Love has a long way to go. Edited May 13, 2021 by SSG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 28 minutes ago, Rodjahs12 said: Alright this I can get behind. I guess at best this is a nothing move which is certainly better than either of the alternatives. Other than being the probable Week 1 starter if things stay bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTwoSixFive Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 11 minutes ago, SSG said: But it's not that baseless of a conclusion. It's not hard to look at the abomination that was Jordan Love's 2019 season and come away having major doubts about his success at the next level. This was a guy who was as bad of a decision maker at his position as anyone in college football the last time we seen him throw a meaningful pass. Sure he wasn't surrounded by elite talent but he also didn't play against it either. I don't think you can place blame at the talent that was around him while failing to acknowledge that he was playing against that same caliber of talent. Jordan Love certainly has the tools to be a franchise QB if he's able to fix the issue that's between his ears. I don't like the success rate of QBs coming into the NFL with MAJOR flaws in their decision making. I think it's chicken **** to put all the blame for his 2019 season at the feet of an OC or the guys around him simply because he's a Packer. That OC wasn't a crutch when people were evaluating Deshone Kizer's flaws as a prospect. It's a little concerning to hear Gutekunst say that Jordan Love has a long way to go. Start with a viewpoint. Tailor your description of a player to fit that narrative. Got it. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, OneTwoSixFive said: Start with a viewpoint. Tailor your [argument] to fit that narrative. Got it. it's a lifestyle choice, really 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 33 minutes ago, SSG said: But it's not that baseless of a conclusion. It's not hard to look at the abomination that was Jordan Love's 2019 season and come away having major doubts about his success at the next level. This was a guy who was as bad of a decision maker at his position as anyone in college football the last time we seen him throw a meaningful pass. Sure he wasn't surrounded by elite talent but he also didn't play against it either. I don't think you can place blame on the talent that was around him while failing to acknowledge that he was playing against that same caliber of talent. Jordan Love certainly has the tools to be a franchise QB if he's able to fix the issue that's between his ears. I don't like the success rate of QBs coming into the NFL with MAJOR flaws in their decision making. I think it's chicken **** to put all the blame for his 2019 season at the feet of an OC or the guys around him simply because he's a Packer. That OC wasn't a crutch when people were evaluating Deshone Kizer's flaws as a prospect. It's a little concerning to hear Gutekunst say that Jordan Love has a long way to go. You should read the scouting reports on Patrick Mahomes sometime. They read very similar to Love. Strong arm. Great movement. Accuracy issues. Takes too many risks....etc. Boom or bust kind of guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Rodjahs12 said: I mean how often do we bother to do that though. Vince Young is one I can think of, but as far as I remember that was an outlier at the time as well. You disrespecting Seneca Wallace and Matt Flynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 1 hour ago, SSG said: But it's not that baseless of a conclusion. It's not hard to look at the abomination that was Jordan Love's 2019 season and come away having major doubts about his success at the next level. This was a guy who was as bad of a decision maker at his position as anyone in college football the last time we seen him throw a meaningful pass. Sure he wasn't surrounded by elite talent but he also didn't play against it either. I don't think you can place blame on the talent that was around him while failing to acknowledge that he was playing against that same caliber of talent. Jordan Love certainly has the tools to be a franchise QB if he's able to fix the issue that's between his ears. I don't like the success rate of QBs coming into the NFL with MAJOR flaws in their decision making. I think it's chicken **** to put all the blame for his 2019 season at the feet of an OC or the guys around him simply because he's a Packer. That OC wasn't a crutch when people were evaluating Deshone Kizer's flaws as a prospect. It's a little concerning to hear Gutekunst say that Jordan Love has a long way to go. You know who had similar abominations for college INT % ? Scrubs like Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, and Deshaun Watson. Guys play hero ball in college all the time. It's not a difficult thing to fix. Accuracy/ball placement is a lot harder and Love is above average there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fistfullofbeer Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 35 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: You know who had similar abominations for college INT % ? Scrubs like Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, and Deshaun Watson. Guys play hero ball in college all the time. It's not a difficult thing to fix. Accuracy/ball placement is a lot harder and Love is above average there. Plus till said player proves that he is not good I will trust that the professional scouts, who were able to convince Packers management to trade up for said player, know more than posters in our forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted May 13, 2021 Author Share Posted May 13, 2021 Blake Bortles brother was drafted by the Detroit Tigers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted May 13, 2021 Author Share Posted May 13, 2021 Only four QBs in NFL history had a season of 4,000 Pass Yards and 35 TD within their first 2 years in the league: Patrick Mahomes, Dan Marino, Kurt Warner and... Blake Bortles 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.