incognito_man Posted April 21, 2023 Share Posted April 21, 2023 4 hours ago, Hunter2_1 said: Yeah but it's against the grain isn't it, every time. Flowers is my number 1 too, but we're in a clear minority. I'm guessing Henley isn't your number 1 LB, Stroud probably is your number 1 QB, DJ Turner probably isn't your 2nd best CB, is Jartavius Martin your number 1 Safety?.... Don't have a top LB, didn't look at that position much. Young is my #1 QB, Witherspoon and Gonzalez are essentially tied for me, both as top 5 non-QBs. I do like Turner a lot as a slot DB though. Wouldn't shock me to see him go late day 1. Branch is my top safety. He's just such a natural, efficient football player. His shorts numbers aren't reflective of his play speed IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefer Posted April 21, 2023 Share Posted April 21, 2023 2 hours ago, DanMullen said: Not disagreeing, but if that was the case Anthony Richardson would be his slam dunk top prospect at QB and wouldn’t have him rated below 25 year old Hendon Hooker, lol. This ranking is absurd, though. I mean he doesn’t do just traits and athletic ability across the board lol. He does for edge though for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted April 21, 2023 Share Posted April 21, 2023 Is it weird that I have some reservations about Will Anderson? I can't shake them. His athletic profile isn't elite and his advanced pass rush grade isn't great. He keeps getting referred to as a 'safe' pick. All this scares me. His production was elite, but there have been lots of guys with elite production that don't pan out in the NFL. I think there is a higher bust potential on Will Anderson than most people think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted April 21, 2023 Share Posted April 21, 2023 8 minutes ago, minutemancl said: Is it weird that I have some reservations about Will Anderson? I can't shake them. His athletic profile isn't elite and his advanced pass rush grade isn't great. He keeps getting referred to as a 'safe' pick. All this scares me. His production was elite, but there have been lots of guys with elite production that don't pan out in the NFL. I think there is a higher bust potential on Will Anderson than most people think. It's a little weird, yeah. Doesn't mean you're crazy though. I think he's great. His tape is outstanding, you see everything you want on film. Could he bust? Of course he could. But it seems unlikely to me. I think it's completely reasonable to have a pass rusher or two ranked higher than him. But I don't think there's a prospect whose on the field production, in this Edge class, comes anywhere close to his. It's mostly him and traits guys at the top. The closest ones are Nolan Smith and Will McDonald. And McDonald's best tape is 2021, while Smith was more "consistent" than "big production." Maybe Tuli, but I don't know what to make of him anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teen Girl Squad Posted April 21, 2023 Share Posted April 21, 2023 1 hour ago, minutemancl said: Is it weird that I have some reservations about Will Anderson? I can't shake them. His athletic profile isn't elite and his advanced pass rush grade isn't great. He keeps getting referred to as a 'safe' pick. All this scares me. His production was elite, but there have been lots of guys with elite production that don't pan out in the NFL. I think there is a higher bust potential on Will Anderson than most people think. Anderson is a bit like Hutch last year (though his profile was a bit cleaner) where you don't know if the absolute upside is there but you know he'll be solid and give it everything he's got (Anderson is an A+ intangibles guy apparently). That said, he's not good enough where I wouldn't trade down given a solid haul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissooner49er Posted April 21, 2023 Share Posted April 21, 2023 2 hours ago, minutemancl said: Is it weird that I have some reservations about Will Anderson? I can't shake them. His athletic profile isn't elite and his advanced pass rush grade isn't great. He keeps getting referred to as a 'safe' pick. All this scares me. His production was elite, but there have been lots of guys with elite production that don't pan out in the NFL. I think there is a higher bust potential on Will Anderson than most people think. Clelin Ferrell was said to be a 'safe pick', too, wasn't he? Hmmmm.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted April 21, 2023 Share Posted April 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Teen Girl Squad said: Anderson is a bit like Hutch last year (though his profile was a bit cleaner) where you don't know if the absolute upside is there but you know he'll be solid and give it everything he's got (Anderson is an A+ intangibles guy apparently). That said, he's not good enough where I wouldn't trade down given a solid haul. Hutch tested really well athletically though. 9.87 RAS with an all-time 3 cone. If Will Anderson was in a class with the top 3 EDGE rushers selected last year, he'd be 4th in my opinion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted April 21, 2023 Share Posted April 21, 2023 17 minutes ago, Chrissooner49er said: Clelin Ferrell was said to be a 'safe pick', too, wasn't he? Hmmmm.... So was Aaron Curry and Jonathan Cooper and so on and so on. That 'safe' label, when it is the main one used to describe a prospect, makes me wary. I'm sure there have been 'safe' guys that panned out just fine, but I want explosive, game changing players, especially on the EDGE. There's a reason Travon Walker went 1st overall last year- the league is all about traits right now. I'm subscribing to that as well. Traits szn @goldfishwars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted April 21, 2023 Share Posted April 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Teen Girl Squad said: Anderson is a bit like Hutch last year (though his profile was a bit cleaner) where you don't know if the absolute upside is there but you know he'll be solid and give it everything he's got (Anderson is an A+ intangibles guy apparently). That said, he's not good enough where I wouldn't trade down given a solid haul. 55 minutes ago, minutemancl said: Hutch tested really well athletically though. 9.87 RAS with an all-time 3 cone. If Will Anderson was in a class with the top 3 EDGE rushers selected last year, he'd be 4th in my opinion. I like Anderson a lot and I was skeptical of Hutch. I thought he'd be a pretty good player, but had him ranked well below Thibs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted April 21, 2023 Share Posted April 21, 2023 Eh, I think Tyree Wilson doesn't belong in the top 10 so Anderson is safe compared to him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superduperman Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Can anyone tell me why Myles Murphy is still in the 20s in most mocks? He's got great size, great burst, ran well, has good if not fantastic college production. Ok I see people saying he doesn't have a ton of pass rush moves but a lot of guys who get picked in the top 10 don't either, that stuff can be taught. I feel like he should be in the top 10 and maybe above Wilson, he's nearly the same size and has much better quickness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Superduperman said: Can anyone tell me why Myles Murphy is still in the 20s in most mocks Same reason Foskey is projected in late round 2. The tools don't really pop on tape, and Foskey was even more productive than Murphy. Edited April 26, 2023 by Jeezla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 3 hours ago, Superduperman said: Can anyone tell me why Myles Murphy is still in the 20s in most mocks? He's got great size, great burst, ran well, has good if not fantastic college production. Ok I see people saying he doesn't have a ton of pass rush moves but a lot of guys who get picked in the top 10 don't either, that stuff can be taught. I feel like he should be in the top 10 and maybe above Wilson, he's nearly the same size and has much better quickness (this is not a genuine answer, just a perfect opportunity to use the gif) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superduperman Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 9 minutes ago, Jeezla said: Same reason Foskey is projected in late round 2. The tools don't really pop on tape, and Foskey was even more productive than Murphy. I don't know, I haven't sat down with the all-22's but they pop to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 On 4/21/2023 at 3:52 PM, minutemancl said: Is it weird that I have some reservations about Will Anderson? I can't shake them. His athletic profile isn't elite and his advanced pass rush grade isn't great. He keeps getting referred to as a 'safe' pick. All this scares me. His production was elite, but there have been lots of guys with elite production that don't pan out in the NFL. I think there is a higher bust potential on Will Anderson than most people think. A lot of scepticism about Anderson, I've noticed, these past two weeks or so. I agree, I don't think he's all that. Would be end of first or a second rounder if you added some previous edge talent to this class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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