MaximusGluteus Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 13 minutes ago, Ragnarok said: Interesting. I thought paying a portion of the cash owed would effect the cap hit. The contract is a little weird and I don't fully understand how it all works, but he has a $59m option bonus that can be exercised any time before week 1. For the trading team, if they exercise the option, it's just cash owed that does not count towards the cap, and their cap hit would be $15,833,570. If they don't exercise it, then it's a $60m cap hit. If GB were to exercise the option prior to a trade then I believe they would owe the $59m and the acquiring team would only be on the hook for the $15,833,570 cap hit, but obviously GB isn't going to pay Rodgers $59m to play for someone else while also taking on a $40m cap hit, which is what it will be for them once he's traded ($31m prior to the trade). Maybe @squire12 can confirm that I have this right lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 11 minutes ago, CP3MVP said: We have the 4th best roster in the division. This was the case last year but the Jets were starting the worst player in the league at QB. This will not be the case in 2023 Yeah we’re F’d 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Bill Belichick has retired from the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WheatieMan Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 31 minutes ago, BayRaider said: Bill Belichick has retired from the NFL. Watch him go 8-9 again.... and win coach of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, sparky151 said: Green Bay has a little leverage in that Rodgers has a huge option bonus due but it doesn't have to be paid until week 1. So they can sit on his rights until the start of the season. If the Jets want him in their offseason program and training camp, they have to make a deal. I'd guess the deal is done after the draft with a conditional pick or two for 2024. Or maybe it's done sooner with something along those lines. Disagree. This is exactly why they do have leverage IMO. The Jets obviously want Rodgers. Rodgers obviously wants to be a Jet. 🖕Both of you if you think you are collecting the money you did plus getting traded for nothing. Give us this or close to it in compensation , or sit till June in Limbo as an Organization ,QB under contract or retire. Balls in your court. No leverage. Yeah 👌 Edited March 15, 2023 by Nabbs4u 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP3MVP Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Hunter2_1 said: Yeah we’re F’d 🤣 We are In the worst spot of not being horrible to get a legit franchise changing QB but not good enough for the playoffs this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Let's just set this aside: he's not retiring no matter what, and he's not gonna sit out of he's not traded. He'll show up to camp and make things awkward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Here's the part I don't understand. The Packers gave the Jets permission to speak with Aaron Rodgers. Trade compensation had to of been discussed and approved upon before that permission was given, No? So which organization is now changing said agreement? Curious if that's the Jets or Packers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tugboat Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 This whole situation is so goofy. Rodgers basically just trading himself. What do you do if you're the Packers though? Like obviously it's in Rodgers interests to have the Jets pay very few important assets to acquire him, keeping his new team stronger. But if you're the Packers...you still want to get some value out of this whole ordeal. But not really negotiating with a lot of leverage in your position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 22 minutes ago, Nabbs4u said: Here's the part I don't understand. The Packers gave the Jets permission to speak with Aaron Rodgers. Trade compensation had to of been discussed and approved upon before that permission was given, No? So which organization is now changing said agreement? Curious if that's the Jets or Packers? Master strategy by GB. Tell the Jets what comp you're looking for and say "sure, go ahead and talk to Aaron". Knowing this situation would play out where the entire Jets fanbase is now pressuring ownership to get him. Andrew Brandt nailed it, Rodgers just gave our FO even more leverage. I don't think anything changed. I suspect the Jets felt our initial price was a starting point. And now they're trying to come down from it, but GB is full-on "Nope. Give us what we asked for in the first place." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 minute ago, incognito_man said: Master strategy by GB. Tell the Jets what comp you're looking for and say "sure, go ahead and talk to Aaron". Knowing this situation would play out where the entire Jets fanbase is now pressuring ownership to get him. Andrew Brandt nailed it, Rodgers just gave our FO even more leverage. I don't think anything changed. I suspect the Jets felt our initial price was a starting point. And now they're trying to come down from it, but GB is full-on "Nope. Give us what we asked for in the first place." Doubt this is the play here. You don't burn a bridge with a FO. You never know when you'll need to make a deal with that team again. Plus Jordan Love and Rodgers share an agent, you aren't going to want to piss off that group either. There's 2 theories, #1 they legit didn't have trade compensation worked out because Rodgers was iffy on playing and they kicked that can down the road to now. #2 They did discuss compensation, are close to or have a deal and this is more just working out with Aaron and the two sides how the finances will spread around. Is Aaron ripping up the deal altogether to make for a smoother transition? Is GB figuring out how much they can afford to eat? Stuff like that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 11 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Doubt this is the play here. You don't burn a bridge with a FO. You never know when you'll need to make a deal with that team again. Plus Jordan Love and Rodgers share an agent, you aren't going to want to piss off that group either. There's 2 theories, #1 they legit didn't have trade compensation worked out because Rodgers was iffy on playing and they kicked that can down the road to now. #2 They did discuss compensation, are close to or have a deal and this is more just working out with Aaron and the two sides how the finances will spread around. Is Aaron ripping up the deal altogether to make for a smoother transition? Is GB figuring out how much they can afford to eat? Stuff like that. Nothing I mentioned would result in anything near bridge burning. Stating your desired compensation up front and then sticking to it is not cause for hard feelings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 9 minutes ago, incognito_man said: Nothing I mentioned would result in anything near bridge burning. Stating your desired compensation up front and then sticking to it is not cause for hard feelings. I misunderstood your point, I thought you were alluding to Gute increasing the compensation once the pressure turned up. My bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 hours ago, MaximusGluteus said: The contract is a little weird and I don't fully understand how it all works, but he has a $59m option bonus that can be exercised any time before week 1. For the trading team, if they exercise the option, it's just cash owed that does not count towards the cap, and their cap hit would be $15,833,570. If they don't exercise it, then it's a $60m cap hit. If GB were to exercise the option prior to a trade then I believe they would owe the $59m and the acquiring team would only be on the hook for the $15,833,570 cap hit, but obviously GB isn't going to pay Rodgers $59m to play for someone else while also taking on a $40m cap hit, which is what it will be for them once he's traded ($31m prior to the trade). Maybe @squire12 can confirm that I have this right lol. That's not quite correct. The option bonus amount isn't on anyone's cap currently because it hasn't been exercised and paid. Once it's been paid, it will hit the cap of the team paying it. I'd imagine part of the holdup is the Jets want to revise his contract so the Packers pay part of the bonus before trading him, with the Jets paying the rest. That's allowable and the Packers could ask for better draft picks from the Jets if they are picking up some of the cap hit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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