Packerraymond Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Just finished the re-watch on all the games I had for Iowa. This guy is really freaking good. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Raymond, how did he look in run defense? I'm curious whether he'll be used primarily in pressure packages, or will be used heavily in run-oriented packages? Love him to great in both, for sure; but coaches might initially want to focus him in packages where he'll be most likely to be effective. So I'm wondering what his rookie usage is more likely to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Just finished the re-watch on all the games I had for Iowa. This guy is really freaking good. Sounds like Packers fans sporting their green and gold shades now that [LVN] is a Packer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Just now, incognito_man said: Sounds like Packers fans sporting their green and gold shades now that [LVN] is a Packer Guess I'm just the AJ Hawk of scouts. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brat&Beer Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Kool-aid always tastes good this time of year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, craig said: Raymond, how did he look in run defense? I'm curious whether he'll be used primarily in pressure packages, or will be used heavily in run-oriented packages? Love him to great in both, for sure; but coaches might initially want to focus him in packages where he'll be most likely to be effective. So I'm wondering what his rookie usage is more likely to be. Excellent edge setter, gets early position, benches out the OT/TE and keeps his eyes on the back to contain and force him upfield. Works down the line pretty well in outside zone and pursues hard when he's on the back side. Nothing really special on inside gap plays, stays blocked for the most part there, but that's really what 2 gapping is, they let the LBs hunt for the most part at Iowa. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refugee Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Excellent edge setter, gets early position, benches out the OT/TE and keeps his eyes on the back to contain and force him upfield. Works down the line pretty well in outside zone and pursues hard when he's on the back side. Nothing really special on inside gap plays, stays blocked for the most part there, but that's really what 2 gapping is, they let the LBs hunt for the most part at Iowa. That’s what I was hoping. Being an Iowa guy, you’d think they get their guys ready to play the run. 21 years old and he was doing some pretty advanced things in the highlights I saw. Mostly he was just physically dominating guys with a burst of power. That won’t be as easy at the next level but it made me laugh when some questioned his strength. He might not set any records on the bench but he can drive his legs and is strong enough to go through his target and should set an edge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brat&Beer Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Refugee said: He might not set any records on the bench but he can drive his legs and is strong enough to go through his target and should set an edge. Was wondering about something last week. Why do they test guys with a bench press, but not with a leg press. For guys in the trenches, isn't lower body strength as important as upper? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, Brat&Beer said: Was wondering about something last week. Why do they test guys with a bench press, but not with a leg press. For guys in the trenches, isn't lower body strength as important as upper? I'm guessing really heavy lower body lifts are a big no-no for injury risk concerns in a competition setting like the combine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossibleCabbage Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 The bench press test at the combine means almost nothing, except that "it's the one they have historical data for" and "it's a relatively low injury risk." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Bench press is also good to test endurance. And I also think it shows that you do the extra gym work. Like, if everyone at your position is doing 15 reps, and you only do 10, what is the reason? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopackgonerd Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 1 hour ago, ThatJerkDave said: Bench press is also good to test endurance. And I also think it shows that you do the extra gym work. Like, if everyone at your position is doing 15 reps, and you only do 10, what is the reason? The endurance thing is a interesting point of view of it. I could see scouts looking at it like that too. But good thing gaining strength in the NFL is easier than other attributes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uffdaswede Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 6 hours ago, Brat&Beer said: Was wondering about something last week. Why do they test guys with a bench press, but not with a leg press. For guys in the trenches, isn't lower body strength as important as upper? I always assumed they were using broad jump and vert for that. Also, wins and losses against blockers have to do with technique…leverage…pad level… we’ll get that fixed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 It has been shown time and time again that long arms can really hamper your bench press results and he has some long arms. Watching his film there is no way in hell I question his play strength. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 10 hours ago, incognito_man said: Sounds like Packers fans sporting their green and gold shades now that [LVN] is a Packer why am I getting the vibe you want this guy to not be good just so you can be right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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