Heinz D. Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 4 hours ago, Epyon said: Imo Tag and Trade Robinson, Trade Hicks, Trade Goldman.... see what you can get for Anthony Miller too. As painful as that would be, that's the first step in moving away from the 3-4. Which is what the Bears should be doing if Nagy is fired... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epyon Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 11 minutes ago, Heinz D. said: As painful as that would be, that's the first step in moving away from the 3-4. Which is what the Bears should be doing if Nagy is fired... Wasn't actually trying to change the defense per se.... Hicks is just the best DL we have, but old and likely not going to survive our rebuild over the next 3 years. Better to sell while he has value. Goldman is a stud as well, and young, but let's be honest....We need to shift money away from the defense ASAP. McCullers can be a space eater in the middle in Goldman's place for less money. Fuller is where I'd draw the line.... He's a stud and getting paid like one, but I'm ok keeping that money invested there, at least until we have to pay Johnson. I would however, entertain offers on him I suppose just to get things done but I don't expect he'd actually get shipped out as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 We aren’t trading away defensive players. There isn’t free agents on offense worth losing our defensive talent. We are going to have to draft our way out of this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Romen Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 4 hours ago, WindyCity said: We aren’t trading away defensive players. There isn’t free agents on offense worth losing our defensive talent. We are going to have to draft our way out of this. Agree, but with the cap going down, expect to lose SOMEBODY. Who? I have no clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 14 hours ago, Epyon said: Imo Tag and Trade Robinson, Trade Hicks, Trade Goldman.... see what you can get for Anthony Miller too. Extend McCullers to replace Goldman, use whatever picks we gain from the above as capital to trade up for Wilson, revamp the OL, and if we still have picks, grab an ILB and a speedier WR or Two. Cap savings gets invested in either OL, upside ILB, or upside DL I'd also call Arizona about getting Andy Isabella-WR if the price was right. Why? Andy Isabella is uh not that good. He's Darnell Mooney light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Pool said: Why? Andy Isabella is uh not that good. He's Darnell Mooney light. Massie Graham Skrine Maybe Leno Extend Fuller Then we are functional. Probably not enough to tag Robinson and keep him on the tag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskieBear Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 14 hours ago, Sugashane said: I'd rather have a comp pick than Darnold if those were my only two options. Losing ARob for a poor one year rental seems like a step down from the Foles trade. Trading Arob for Darnold gives us a former top draft pick QB who might be better outside of the cluster f**k that is NYJ - it allows us to not take a QB at the top of the draft but have to worry about waiting for him to develop. We can then take offensive picks - specifically oline and WR - in the draft to surround darnold. We get a year to see how he does, and if it's not a fit, we can let him walk. The difference is that we don't have to wait a full year to get a 3rd round pick and get a young QB that might be in a bad situation. Yes, if we could get the jet's 2nd 1st rounder for ARob, that might be more ideal. However, NY would probably much rather get rid of Darnold since they are going to take Lawrence/Fields, get Arob for a QB they don't need, and keep that 2nd first for more help for their new qb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAR FACE DOWN ARROW Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 I am 100% against giving anything up for Sam Darnold. If we wanted a non functioning QB with a fine draft pedigree we could extend Mitch. Even IF he turns out to be good in a better situation than NYJ (and are the Bears actually, you know, better?) then we are going to knee-cap ourselves vs the cap next year anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topwop1 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 13 minutes ago, HuskieBear said: Trading Arob for Darnold gives us a former top draft pick QB who might be better outside of the cluster f**k that is NYJ - it allows us to not take a QB at the top of the draft but have to worry about waiting for him to develop. We can then take offensive picks - specifically oline and WR - in the draft to surround darnold. We get a year to see how he does, and if it's not a fit, we can let him walk. The difference is that we don't have to wait a full year to get a 3rd round pick and get a young QB that might be in a bad situation. Yes, if we could get the jet's 2nd 1st rounder for ARob, that might be more ideal. However, NY would probably much rather get rid of Darnold since they are going to take Lawrence/Fields, get Arob for a QB they don't need, and keep that 2nd first for more help for their new qb Meh I think we're all dreaming if we think that Darnold would come to Chicago and suddenly turn his career around and solve the QB position for us, because it can be argued that it is just as much of a cluster **** with the Bears as it is with the Jets. I mean how would he be in any better of a situation here? Personally I would not give up much for a player like Darnold who is essentially a 1-year band aid, if that. Which team would be willing to commit $20+M to him per year on a new contract based on 1-year of good play, hypothetically speaking, if he has a good year in 2021. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, HuskieBear said: Trading Arob for Darnold gives us a former top draft pick QB who might be better outside of the cluster f**k that is NYJ - it allows us to not take a QB at the top of the draft but have to worry about waiting for him to develop. We can then take offensive picks - specifically oline and WR - in the draft to surround darnold. We get a year to see how he does, and if it's not a fit, we can let him walk. The difference is that we don't have to wait a full year to get a 3rd round pick and get a young QB that might be in a bad situation. Yes, if we could get the jet's 2nd 1st rounder for ARob, that might be more ideal. However, NY would probably much rather get rid of Darnold since they are going to take Lawrence/Fields, get Arob for a QB they don't need, and keep that 2nd first for more help for their new qb We are a cluster F. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
41st ward Chicagoian Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Pace and Nagy need a rookie for job security. With a rookie they can sell the “we are developing him” line for 2 or 3 years before it’s obvious they drafted another bust and they are run out of town. CYA collect those paychecks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 I think Pace and Nagy sell that they need to improve the OL, so they invest heavily there and get one more shot with Foles. They might draft a QB to cover their *****, but gun to my head I think they're both back unless this completely falls apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topwop1 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Unless we make the playoffs then mark my words Nagy will not be back.. and with the team basically needing to win at least 5 out of their last 6 games to make that happen it's unlikely that will be the case. There is simply no excuse for starting out 5-1 and then missing the playoffs with the worst offense in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topwop1 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Just another indictment on Nagy...he let go of a real good defensive mind in Brandon Staley, who is now DC of the Rams, to hire Chuck Pagano after Fangio left for Denver. This just makes me question his evaluation skills even more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskieBear Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 27 minutes ago, topwop1 said: Just another indictment on Nagy...he let go of a real good defensive mind in Brandon Staley, who is now DC of the Rams, to hire Chuck Pagano after Fangio left for Denver. This just makes me question his evaluation skills even more. He didn't let go of him. His contract was up and he decided to follow Vic to Denver. LA then hired him in a promotion to be their DC this year. find a new slant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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