Norm Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 57 minutes ago, TheEagle said: I hear about dropped balls, but in the videos I’ve seen I’ve only seen one drop, and he’s made several catches outside of his frame. His hands won’t be a strength, but if you are a playmaker, there is room for drops—see TO and Brandon Marshall. If MVS has ball tracking ability, he’d have been a great asset—despite his drops. I said earlier this week that they're going to watch his hands like a hawk and every pass that gets close they'll go tweet was a drop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brat&Beer Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Why do "drops" seem to get so much more discussion than QB's missing an open receiver with an errant pass? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brit Pack Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 From the videos I've seen his hands look great. Very smooth, plucks the ball nicely and late hands. They seem more natural than the other WRs on show. That is all from my untrained eye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uffdaswede Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 14 hours ago, Brit Pack said: From the videos I've seen his hands look great. Very smooth, plucks the ball nicely and late hands. They seem more natural than the other WRs on show. That is all from my untrained eye Agreed. I assume he's putting a lot of his concentration into routes and footwork. They say he's had a drop in every practice open to the media. They don't say out of how many balls thrown his way. I honestly don't know if we're talking one drop out of five or fifty. Jordy had his share of inexplicable drops. As long as the percentage of drops is under ten percent, and as long as the production is there on the other 90%, I can't get too excited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 16 hours ago, Brat&Beer said: Why do "drops" seem to get so much more discussion than QB's missing an open receiver with an errant pass? Goes back to controlling what you can control. If the QB misses the WR by 5+ yards, you're going to talk about a bad throw from the QB. If the QB throws the ball and it hits the WRs hands, it's going to be dinged against the WR regardless of whether or not the throws were accurate. That's why I asked for some videos of his drops. Not just the number. All drops aren't the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Drops stats are challenging. Wide continuum of possible catches, from easy to extraordinary albeit possible. Some catches are really really difficult. Do you chalk up “another drop” for not getting a ball that would go uncaught by95% of nfl receivers? Or only count “drop” if half of the receivers would catch it? I’m not sure there is consistency in judging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 We signed Campbell on June 9th last year. I imagine we'll look at the roster in full next week at mandatory minicamp and make any vet additions we want before camp in the days following. At least that's what I'm telling myself because this time of the year is so boring that I need to make news in my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R T Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 13 minutes ago, craig said: Drops stats are challenging. Wide continuum of possible catches, from easy to extraordinary albeit possible. Some catches are really really difficult. Do you chalk up “another drop” for not getting a ball that would go uncaught by95% of nfl receivers? Or only count “drop” if half of the receivers would catch it? I’m not sure there is consistency in judging. I think you are over thinking this one. If you ask any NFL WR, he will tell you that if he can get a hand on it, he should catch it. They are professionals and they should catch every ball they can get their hands on. Fairly black and white for grading a drop. Tough catches are why they get paid for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLGURU Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Anybody heard any updates on Bak and his knee. He had some setbacks in December and couldnt keep his knee from filling up with fluid. Needed to rest it, but havent heard anything lately on how thats going. Any reports or updates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 3 hours ago, CWood21 said: Goes back to controlling what you can control. If the QB misses the WR by 5+ yards, you're going to talk about a bad throw from the QB. If the QB throws the ball and it hits the WRs hands, it's going to be dinged against the WR regardless of whether or not the throws were accurate. That's why I asked for some videos of his drops. Not just the number. All drops aren't the same. [Looks over barricade] [Clears throat] "This fanbase sees the QB miss a WR by 5+ yards and immediately blames the WR for the route." [Ducks back behind barricade] 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green19 Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 33 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: [Looks over barricade] [Clears throat] "This fanbase sees the QB miss a WR by 5+ yards and immediately blames the WR for the route." [Ducks back behind barricade] To be fair though Gb has like the most accurate QB in league history so he isn’t likely missing throws… WRs are more likely running bad routes. that’s just science… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R T Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 20 minutes ago, Green19 said: To be fair though Gb has like the most accurate QB in league history so he isn’t likely missing throws… WRs are more likely running bad routes. that’s just science… Aaron Rodgers is human, that is just science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemike778 Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 49 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: [Looks over barricade] [Clears throat] "This fanbase sees the QB miss a WR by 5+ yards and immediately blames the WR for the route." [Ducks back behind barricade] I guess the answer is If a receiver drops a pass you know its a drop. Whether its difficult or easy or whatever, you can see the ball went to him and he didn't catch it. With the pass, you just don't know whether its the receiver not running his route or Rodgers just messing up. Rodgers is extremely accurate and doesn't usually miss by much - plus he is very much a timing QB expecting a WR to be where they are (hence the whole trust thing) so if he misses by 5 yards there is a good chance the WR has messed up his route. As we don't know he will get the benefit of the doubt from a lot of people. But yeah Rodgers will get away with plenty that he just missed that get chalked up as a bad route. It goes the other way as well - plenty of fans will, if in doubt blame Rodgers. I'm sure there are plenty of passes gone wrong which you guys will have naturally blamed Rodgers that were the receiver's fault. When its unclear, the pro Rodgers fans will probably blame the WR, the anti-Rodgers fans will blame Rodgers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green19 Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 21 minutes ago, R T said: Aaron Rodgers is human, that is just science. Is he though… can you confirm this? I need white papers to back up the science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R T Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 9 minutes ago, Green19 said: Is he though… can you confirm this? I need white papers to back up the science. Game Changing Play of the Week: Aaron Rodgers Misses Wide Open Receivers on Back to Back Plays (cheeseheadtv.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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