RaidersAreOne Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Saints don't want to pay that contract and would rather deal with him in free agency 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted February 12, 2023 Author Share Posted February 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, lancerman said: Saints don't want to pay that contract and would rather deal with him in free agency Will be interesting if tampering is looked into at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Lol The McDanielsing of the Raiders is finally complete 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 12 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said: Will be interesting if tampering is looked into at all. In what manner? Didn't LV grant Carr permission to meet with the Saints? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsandI Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 12 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said: Will be interesting if tampering is looked into at all. Nah. Whatever was said during the conversation between Carr and Saints is irrelevant because Raiders okayed it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Carr has the no trade clause. So whatever the Saints were willing to do, Carr would have to ok it. Given the position that the Raiders are in with that money, DC knew he was going to be able to do what he wants. It's a lot better for his future team to hold onto that draft capital and he can give the middle finger to the Raiders on his way out as they'll be left with nothing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Karnage84 said: Carr has the no trade clause. So whatever the Saints were willing to do, Carr would have to ok it. Given the position that the Raiders are in with that money, DC knew he was going to be able to do what he wants. It's a lot better for his future team to hold onto that draft capital and he can give the middle finger to the Raiders on his way out as they'll be left with nothing. If McDaniels didn't extend him we'd get a comp pick (I think he was signed through 22 and would have been FA, might be wrong). I think this is basically worst case scenario, but at least I enjoyed the entirety of his career and will be forever grateful. Edited February 12, 2023 by Trojan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty21 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 I’m somewhere between: Go you, Carr, you deserve everything; Ha ha, stupid raiders get nothing for making Carr the scapegoat; and wary that a team in prime position to trade for the bears pick and give up everything end up signing him and bowing out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Raiders are a 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp0k2 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 1 hour ago, JetsandI said: Nah. Whatever was said during the conversation between Carr and Saints is irrelevant because Raiders okayed it. They ok'd them speaking. If Carr and NO colluded on Carr demanding a release so NO could sign him as a FA and not have to give any compensation to LV, that's not ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 1 hour ago, JetsandI said: Nah. Whatever was said during the conversation between Carr and Saints is irrelevant because Raiders okayed it. Nah that’s not true. If the Saints even lightly implied they’d rather Carr get released to not give draft picks, they would have colluded and should forfeit many draft picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Honestly, this is why players have no-trade clauses. Raiders didn't want to take a chance on an injury guaranteeing Carr's 2023 salary, that's their prerogative. Carr is using his to choose his team/path in FA. That's his right. Even if he chooses the Saints, this is why players & agents insist on having the NTC. There isn't going to be a tampering question, it's just the advantage of having the NTC. The other part with NO/Carr - I expect they'll offer a different deal, that backloads heavily - that allows them to cut Michael Thomas outright and restructure other deals to get under the cap (they can restructure 65M in deals, and cutting Jameis Winston as a post-June 1 adds another 12.8M). So there's a path with Carr taking a low 2023 hit that allows the Saints to make this work. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 12 minutes ago, BayRaider said: Nah that’s not true. If the Saints even lightly implied they’d rather Carr get released to not give draft picks, they would have colluded and should forfeit many draft picks. The Anti-Tampering policy does not apply once a team gives written permission to another team to negotiate with the player. They don’t get to dictate anything after that. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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