August4th Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 found haley frustrating at times but I loved what he did to the offense.... hope our new OC keeps that offense and hopefully him and ben getting along makes it more consistent and smoother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 1 hour ago, 3rivers said: there were bad call though. Yes we shat on arians and for good reason. Wait and see how this season goes, but the Haley haters can rest for now. 42 points vs the jas was too late and miracle plays from AB for 2 TD's. The game was never close until the end . Bens getting his way, but lets see if this is the year he ends up on IR. When he like arians play calling he almost ended up on IR several times. You shat on Arians for "good reason." You shat on Haley for "good reason." Arians already proved y'all wrong. What will it take for you to reconsider the way you treat your OCs? What does Haley need to do in his next stop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 4 hours ago, 1BackInBlackFan said: So I guess this means someone else will have to call for a pitch out on fourth and inches. Yea that one still has me perplexed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 one of the best leaving too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rivers Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) I wasn't one the people that complained about Haley like many on our forum did, but the calls in the Jags game were annoying. As for what he has to do, it would be a start by attacking the D's weakness and not play into their strengths, and don't rule out a QB sneak on 4th and a foot for example. We will see how this works for us, but I am not one of the Haley haters just to clarify. Just learned that the entire D staff is returning NOW that makes no sense after watching that game last weekend or does it? Edited January 17, 2018 by 3rivers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apparition Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 4 hours ago, Ray Reed said: 42 points against the Jags, 3rd in total offense this year. You can say he has some bad calls situationally but literally every coordinator does. Offensive production doesn't seem like the problem in Pittsburgh to me but hey, guess they're banking on this raising them from the third best offense to the 2nd or 1st. Remember that 14 of those 42 points were on low-percentage throws on 4th and long. 28 is still good but let's not lose sight of the fact that Haley was playing with a stacked deck - future Hall of Famers at QB and WR, an all-pro RB and a top-5 offensive line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilenFroggen Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Sometimes getting fired can be awesome in retrospect, all the ridiculous stressors you spend months or years agonizing over goes away literally overnight. Your star RB keeps getting suspended or holds out or causes mid-playoff drama? So what? Will Ben play or won't he? Who cares? Does Bryant want to stay or go this week? Not my chair not my problem, that's what I say. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Reed Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Starless said: Remember that 14 of those 42 points were on low-percentage throws on 4th and long. 28 is still good but let's not lose sight of the fact that Haley was playing with a stacked deck - future Hall of Famers at QB and WR, an all-pro RB and a top-5 offensive line. Oh I agree about the talent he had to work with for sure. I'm just not sure that side of the ball and scoring 42 (for this example) with the help of some miracle plays when fans think you should have scored 45 without miracle plays is exactly what they should be changing if they want to turn their recent playoff letdowns around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingone Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 It s a gamble we ll see how it works out. Imagine the Steelers keep the same offense with a different play caller. There was slippage in Atlanta this year. I get a little different because the Steelers are promoting from within. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmad Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Someone had to fall on the sword, Fans don't like Haley, Ben doesn't like Haley, Tomlin gets away scott free and so does the defensive coaching staff despite it giving up 45 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyNumber11 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Honestly I would love to have Haley back in the desert. Best OC we've had in the last 15 years hands down. Hell probably the best OC in our history Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedTheClock Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 2 hours ago, sdrawkcab321 said: one of the best leaving too Great name too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 2 hours ago, jrry32 said: You shat on Arians for "good reason." You shat on Haley for "good reason." Arians already proved y'all wrong. What will it take for you to reconsider the way you treat your OCs? What does Haley need to do in his next stop? Arians had a lot of deep drops, not a lot of running, and put Ben in bad positions health wise. Haley would often game plan poorly and throw on good pass teams (100+ passes against the Jags in 2 games this year) or run on good run defending teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43M Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 3 hours ago, jrry32 said: You shat on Arians for "good reason." You shat on Haley for "good reason." Arians already proved y'all wrong. What will it take for you to reconsider the way you treat your OCs? What does Haley need to do in his next stop? Arians and Haley were both laughably bad situational playcallers and gameplanners in general. Both would regularly move away from whats working. Both would regularly fail to take advantage of favorable matchups. Both consistently failed at situational playcalling. Its easy to look at the stats and believe they have been good OCs without actually watching them week to week and coming to a more informed conclusion, but I promise you, both were mediocre OCs. Arians was a terrific QB coach and Haley's offense was quite good, but neither were even remotely decent at situational play calling, and that was the biggest issue with both of them. And Haley has only ever had Elite talents on offenses he has coached as offensive coordinator both in Pittsburgh and Arizona. Any remotely decent coordinator could have success with the talent he had with both of those teams. Well or offense had plenty of success under him, it was also a lot more inconsistent than it had any right to be with the talent we have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43M Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 3 hours ago, jrry32 said: You shat on Arians for "good reason." You shat on Haley for "good reason." Arians already proved y'all wrong. What will it take for you to reconsider the way you treat your OCs? What does Haley need to do in his next stop? I'm sorry but this is just flat-out ignorance. How did Arians prove us wrong exactly? He was a pretty good head coach but that doesn't mean he was good as offensive coordinator. Yes he had some success with Arizona, but that doesn't mean it dismisses our biggest criticism of him, which was the situational play calling, which I've also heard Cardinals and Colts fans complain about during his time as offensive play-caller. So no, he didn't really prove anything wrong in regards to the criticism Steeler fans had about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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