twslhs20 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 I bet there is correlation to those that think a mask is unconstitutional to those who have actually read the constitution. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Let's, uh. Steer this conversation back toward Covid 19 and away from the politics behind it. Even if there are idiots that have made it political. And not simply a health and (for some) a survival thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 I’m going to teach class like this if we resume in person classes this year. @LETSGOBROWNIES it’s fog proof and that way my kids can still read my lips and facial expression. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 18 hours ago, naptownskinsfan said: as well as constantly breathing in our own carbon dioxide. Reaching back a few pages, but that video that was posted should have disabused you of this notion. If masks trapped all sorts of CO2, you would have saw her blood oxygen saturation levels drop dramatically. The reason you don't is that the volume of air behind a mask is minuscule as compared to your lung volume. Most of what you inbreath comes from outside the mask. Additionally, you would be able to tell if you were breathing in too much CO2. If you live near sea level and have ever traveled to the mountains, you might notice you're a little short of breath. You breathe more often, and feel a little fatigued. That's because your blood oxygen saturation levels drop down into the lower 90's, or even high 80's. You can literally feel that. Masks are not a danger to your breathing, in any way. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WizeGuy Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Less than 100 hospitalizations and only 23 people tested positive in the past 24 hours in the entire county of Monroe. That's a population of 740,000+ people. Monroe County has been curb stomping this virus from day one. It had us on the ropes in April, but the community has responded by following the guidelines put in place. We're reaping the benefits today. Just note- we've had outdoor dining for over a month. During that time we have had multiple big protests where damn near everyone masked up. We started indoor dining two weeks ago. All of these boundaries have been pushed, and the numbers are still decreasing. This should give everyone hope that it's possible to have a taste of normality if the governor and community takes this threat seriously. We're not out if the woods yet. It's only been two weeks since indoor dining has been allowed, so there's still potential for a spike. Still, im riding these good vibes, because there's been a lot of depressing news lately. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 45 minutes ago, theJ said: Reaching back a few pages, but that video that was posted should have disabused you of this notion. If masks trapped all sorts of CO2, you would have saw her blood oxygen saturation levels drop dramatically. The reason you don't is that the volume of air behind a mask is minuscule as compared to your lung volume. Most of what you inbreath comes from outside the mask. Additionally, you would be able to tell if you were breathing in too much CO2. If you live near sea level and have ever traveled to the mountains, you might notice you're a little short of breath. You breathe more often, and feel a little fatigued. That's because your blood oxygen saturation levels drop down into the lower 90's, or even high 80's. You can literally feel that. Masks are not a danger to your breathing, in any way. If this were an issue surgeons would have a lot of trouble performing surgeries (as well as the rest of the OR staff). It isn’t. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 2 hours ago, WizeGuy said: Less than 100 hospitalizations and only 23 people tested positive in the past 24 hours in the entire county of Monroe. That's a population of 740,000+ people. Monroe County has been curb stomping this virus from day one. It had us on the ropes in April, but the community has responded by following the guidelines put in place. We're reaping the benefits today. Just note- we've had outdoor dining for over a month. During that time we have had multiple big protests where damn near everyone masked up. We started indoor dining two weeks ago. All of these boundaries have been pushed, and the numbers are still decreasing. This should give everyone hope that it's possible to have a taste of normality if the governor and community takes this threat seriously. We're not out if the woods yet. It's only been two weeks since indoor dining has been allowed, so there's still potential for a spike. Still, im riding these good vibes, because there's been a lot of depressing news lately. This whole thing in the south is driven by crowded bars tbh. They were fine too until they opened the bars and you had hundreds of people crowding into an air conditioned space for hours, talking loudly, sans masks. Who thought that was a good idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skywindO2 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 2 hours ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: If this were an issue surgeons would have a lot of trouble performing surgeries (as well as the rest of the OR staff). It isn’t. Additionally we'd have significant data on the subject from Asia where wearing a mask was the norm long before the pandemic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 16 minutes ago, mission27 said: This whole thing in the south is driven by crowded bars tbh. They were fine too until they opened the bars and you had hundreds of people crowding into an air conditioned space for hours, talking loudly, sans masks. Who thought that was a good idea? Kid Rock. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 What in the Martin Shkreli kinda bs is this? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WizeGuy Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 (edited) 55 minutes ago, mission27 said: This whole thing in the south is driven by crowded bars tbh. They were fine too until they opened the bars and you had hundreds of people crowding into an air conditioned space for hours, talking loudly, sans masks. Who thought that was a good idea? Bars are going to give many governors head aches because so much of the regulation falls on bar owners enforcing the rules and the general public complying. We allowed indoor dining two weeks ago. People can take their masks off when they eat at a table or at the bar, but once you stand up and start lollygagging around- you have to wear a mask. Every employee must wear a mask as well. From what I've heard- most of the bars have been pretty strict on this- but there have been a few pushing the boundaries. Many fear losing their liquor license, so they comply. Also, it's limited capacity (50% inside); every other booth is taped off to promote social distancing and bar stools are placed in a way that keeps 6 ft of distance. No clubs are allowed open. Gyms aren't allowed open either. Of course, this is still very risky, and it's incredibly hard to enforce, so a lot of the 'follow through' falls on the bar owners. I haven't been out to a bar yet, but I will say- outside dining seems to be pretty safe. We've had patios open at bars for the past month or so, and numbers are still decreasing. That being said, I'm seeing more photos on my facebook feed of people getting together and partying (at their homes) without masks on, so that's worrisome. Fingers crossed, but if we're still looking good through July, then I'm going to be a happy man. Phase 4 is not bad at all, and I'd personally be very happy if we were in this phase until a vaccine is available, though others may disagree. Edited June 29, 2020 by WizeGuy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyers0909 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 3 hours ago, WizeGuy said: Less than 100 hospitalizations and only 23 people tested positive in the past 24 hours in the entire county of Monroe. That's a population of 740,000+ people. Monroe County has been curb stomping this virus from day one. It had us on the ropes in April, but the community has responded by following the guidelines put in place. We're reaping the benefits today. Just note- we've had outdoor dining for over a month. During that time we have had multiple big protests where damn near everyone masked up. We started indoor dining two weeks ago. All of these boundaries have been pushed, and the numbers are still decreasing. This should give everyone hope that it's possible to have a taste of normality if the governor and community takes this threat seriously. We're not out if the woods yet. It's only been two weeks since indoor dining has been allowed, so there's still potential for a spike. Still, im riding these good vibes, because there's been a lot of depressing news lately. I drove back home to Pittsford for Father's Day from Philly and definitely noticed a change as soon as I crossed into NY. Traffic signs every few miles saying "NY Tough, cover your face in public". I don't think PA/Philly has done a poor job, but there was definitely a different feel back home which was great to see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 43 minutes ago, JDBrocks said: What in the Martin Shkreli kinda bs is this? Actually not a bad price tbhwy. Consider all the costs avoided by shortening a hospital stay by however many days (or not dying) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Just now, mission27 said: Actually not a bad price tbhwy. Consider all the costs avoided by shortening a hospital stay by however many days (or not dying) We already paid for the R&D. It is a bad price, and it's profiteering on a global pandemic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, JDBrocks said: We already paid for the R&D. It is a bad price, and it's profiteering on a global pandemic. Were you expecting Gilead to release it at cost? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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