beardown3231 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 Just now, topwop1 said: Huh? Why would he lie lol It's not as if they don't have each other's cell numbers and can make quick texts back and forth He said he "got off of the phone" with Nagy and Pace, not "just texted with." Yeah I highly doubt that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topwop1 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 Just now, beardown3231 said: He said he "got off of the phone" with Nagy and Pace, not "just texted with." Yeah I highly doubt that Ok dude...highly doubt it then lol. Again why would he lie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxguy7 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 minute ago, GOGRIESE said: His agent probably called as soon as the rumors spilled out. This isn't uncommon. "We would never trade you Tarik. Your name did come up, but you are a critical part of our plans." "We are going to include another first rounder instead." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOGRIESE Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, chisoxguy7 said: "We are going to include another first rounder instead." Or....not as the latest reports say. Not some lady who has no track record of being an NFL Insider. Edited February 7, 2021 by GOGRIESE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZBearsFan Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 4 hours ago, Pool said: Roll with what we got and draft a QB next year. I really don't care what they do so long as they don't mortgage the future to do it. Pace and Nagy don’t have the rope to punt on 2021. I doubt a Wentz trade is a mortgage on the future. Even if it’s this and next year’s 2 that still leaves us with a 1 and 3 both years. The only deal out there that’s a full blown mortgage on the future would be for Watson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZBearsFan Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 hour ago, topwop1 said: Watkins has been disappointing ever since leaving Buffalo but he has talent and would likely be cheap. Out of all those guys Will Fuller would be my choice but will probably be out of our price range Would be fine with Agholor too if we end up with Wentz I am also intrigued by Samuel and Westbrook If they get Wentz though I think they'll try and convince or find a way to keep ARob then use a mid to late round pick to add some more speed besides Mooney We’re getting Cohen’s speed back in 2021 as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZBearsFan Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, chisoxguy7 said: Unfortunately, we are taking on a ton of salary in the Wentz deal. He's gonna have to take a huge pay cut. 2021 Cap hits: Wentz: 34.7M Cohen: 3.25M -- (loss of 2M cap space if traded) Foles: 6.66M (gain of 850k if traded) Robinson is gone. Per a Yates tweet earlier today, the Wentz cap hits post-trade are: 2021: $25.4M 2022: $22M 2023: $25M 2024: $26M ****** My bad - saw that someone else already commented to this after I posted. Edited February 7, 2021 by AZBearsFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty21 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 I’d be fine if the trade is 1, Foles and Cohen for him. I think the trade is inevitable so as much as I’d rather not have Wentz, Pace isn’t going to get outbid. And if we get out for just that when Pace would be willing to sacrifice so much Moreno it’s probably a W. Also would rather the trade be Cohen than a 3rd rounder 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 9 hours ago, Nads786 said: I can see them dragging this out for so long that other teams are forced to make trades for the Wentz's of the world effectively eliminating his trade prospects. I think Miami and the Jets are probably the best bets, teams who can wait and draft a QB only to trade him to the Texans. If this trade happens I bet it happens around trade time with either the Jets or Dolphins. If you're the Jaguars, I would do it as well. Trevor is a unknown, Watson is a sure bet. That would be a very good trade for both sides IMO. I disagree with this. While it's true that Watson is a sure bet, I think Trevor is a darn good bet, in spite of not being a sure thing at this point. In addition to that, you would be getting Trevor on a rookie contract for the next five years, versus paying a huge contract to Watson. Another big reason that nobody ever talks about is that the Texans are a division rival of the Jaguars. They are in a position where they have a great QB and it looks like they will have to ship him out. Just about anything they do is going to be a down grade for them. If you are the Jaguars, why would you help them out of a jam by taking their malcontent QB off their hands AND THEN giving them a replacement with a rookie contract who could very well end up being just as good? If you are the Jags, you just sit back and smile as your division rival destroys themselves. Then you are the lone team in the division with an elite QB. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epyon Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 Wentz is imo a nightmare scenario for us. I'd literally rather have Foles, at least he can groom the next guy.... And that's before counting Cohen (who I wouldn't have resigned, but has returner value), or losing a first rounder too. The only bright side is that Pace and Nagy get fired after this season... Unfortunately, McCasky's lack of a spine and accountability this offseason has only exacerbated an already terrible situation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Forge said: Keep in mind that his salary for 2022 is fully guaranteed (well, at least for right now). So if he sucks in 2021, you're stuck with him in 2022 most likely True but I'm looking long term. New GM and HC are fully secured in their positions so they can let the dumpster fire burn in 2022 with Wentz and draft talent around him. Then they get their early pick for QB in 2023. I'm all for trying to fill the team with talent for rookie contract QBs, and when Wentz can be a post-June 1st cut to save $26mil. That can go a long way to extending young talent or attacking FA to support the new kid. 2 hours ago, chisoxguy7 said: If the silver lining is that we might suck bad enough that it won't hurt us next year, it might be a bad trade... I'll reserve judgement until I see what they do with his contract, but there's a high likelihood that Wentz will prevent us from making meaningful improvements to the roster in free agency. I think it is a bad trade, I'd rather stockpile young talent. If Wentz refuses to renegotiate I cant blame him either. Literally the only benefit would be hoping to spite the Eagles by doing so, but that's not worth tens of millions of dollars imo. Maybe Pace and Nagy make the deal work, but atm I feel they are desperate and lack an eye for the position. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Orange&Blue said: FWIW, Cohen removed all Bears photos off his IG... 2 hours ago, topwop1 said: Ok dude...highly doubt it then lol. Again why would he lie It's stupid to even think he's lying. What would he have to gain from it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty21 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 Trading for Wentz when Watson is available is almost like trading up for Trubisky when Watson is available 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 9 minutes ago, Ty21 said: Trading for Wentz when Watson is available is almost like trading up for Trubisky when Watson is available Clever had you not stolen this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty21 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 16 minutes ago, beardown3231 said: Clever had you not stolen this He posted this after me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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