soflbillsfan Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, TheRealMcCoy said: Ahh but I do and it is true. Howie is just of an issue as Pederson and Chip were. It is fine they can keep him and I am sure people will be happy he stayed while some will be mad he is gone its not my team I am just saying based on what I have seen and followed as I do have a connection to following that team even though it is not the one I support. Its going to be a tough sell but could be a bit easier with a new GM thats my argument on this. Pederson failed that team but so did howie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, soflbillsfan said: Ahh but I do and it is true. Howie is just of an issue as Pederson and Chip were. It is fine they can keep him and I am sure people will be happy he stayed while some will be mad he is gone its not my team I am just saying based on what I have seen and followed as I do have a connection to following that team even though it is not the one I support. Its going to be a tough sell but could be a bit easier with a new GM thats my argument on this. Pederson failed that team but so did howie Chip had full control of the draft his final year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocky_rams Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Wow. Carson Wentz might as well be the GM for the Eagles. Dude has more pull than any QB in the league. Good for Pederson for not putting up with this bull. The situation in Philly is super messy. You have a divided locker room over who’s gonna be the QB, then the question is who is the QB? Add the salary cap trouble they’re in and having Howie Roseman as a GM and it’s a job that’s quite easy to pass on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just to be clear (or as clear as the Eagles have told others) Howie was Andy's sidekick GM for a while (2010-2011) but by the end of the Reid era he had control of the draft (2012) GM/coach Andy was not really working out He also had total control in 2013 Yes, Ertz was a Pac 10 guy so I am sure Kelly had input as all head coaches have input In 2014 Kelly flexed and got more say but it was a collaboration In 2015 Kelly staged a coup and shoved Howie to the other side of the building (see classic Kelce speech) In 2016 Howie was reinstated as the GM with full control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art_Vandalay Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 (edited) Before week 17 I would've said it would've been impulsive to fire him. But when you clearly try to lose a game and therefore lose the trust of your players, that's a bridge that can't be rebuilt. Super thankful for him bringing home Philly's first Super Bowl and he should never have to buy his own beer when in Philly, but this had to be done. Edited January 11, 2021 by Art_Vandalay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tk3 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 This is now twice this season where, what feels like an attempt at tanking is met with being fired (Gregg Williams and Pederson) Are we wrong about the tanking? Do they just suck? Or are these owners full on screwing over coaches who are doing their bidding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ_Eaglesfan Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, rocky_rams said: Wow. Carson Wentz might as well be the GM for the Eagles. Dude has more pull than any QB in the league. Good for Pederson for not putting up with this bull. The situation in Philly is super messy. You have a divided locker room over who’s gonna be the QB, then the question is who is the QB? Add the salary cap trouble they’re in and having Howie Roseman as a GM and it’s a job that’s quite easy to pass on Well @TheRealMcCoy you weren't wrong. These people don't know a single thing about our team lol. This couldn't be further from reality. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Eagles fans are probably happy to see him go, but on the positive side of it all, he did bring them their first Super Bowl win in franchise history. I'd take the bad with that good every single time. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenos Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 53 minutes ago, pwny said: Jets come on down Even though Pederson is light years better than Gase, I don’t think they want to go down that path again IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Lol. Somebody go find the Wentz re-signed thread. Or maybe it was in the Packer sub forum. I called this the minute they gave Wentz that contract. Head coaches don’t survive when paying mid-tier quarterbacks top tier money. Few do when paying top tier quarterbacks top tier money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jeezla said: Chip had full control of the draft his final year That was 2015 They brought in DeMarco Murray, Byron Maxwell, Kiko Alanso, and Sammy Sleeves They traded away Foles, a 2nd round pick, Shady McCoy They drafted Agholor at 15 overall Rowe at 47 overall Jordan Hicks in round 3 (decent LB best know for being on the list of IR guys during the SB run) three complete nothings in rounds 6 and 7 Having nothing to do with 2015 is a resume builder. Howie later turned crap into gold by trading Sammy Sleeves to Minny for a 1st rounder That pick helped beat Minny in the NFCCG (forced fumble in the Red Zone) and picked up Brady's fumble in the Super Bowl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Does this mean the Eagles are choosing to stick with Carson Wentz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, jrry32 said: Does this mean the Eagles are choosing to stick with Carson Wentz? This might be a symptom, but not the cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 hour ago, ET80 said: At least you're not working with this puts in Philly. He has a bad head to be going with the bald look. He would be better off wearing a rug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ_Eaglesfan Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, jrry32 said: Does this mean the Eagles are choosing to stick with Carson Wentz? I don't think that choice will be made till the next coach is decided, but Hurts was a Howie pick, not a Doug pick. It is entirely possible Wentz is on the outs and we are looking to draft a QB early or roll with Hurts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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