7DnBrnc53 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP3MVP Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Serena is the best woman to ever play tennis, but she’s nowhere close to being the best overall tennis player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101Raider Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Since it’s the greatest athlete, I gotta go Michael Phelps. Individual sport, competing at the highest level in the Olympics, that man has: 28 medals (an astounding 23 of them gold) along with multiple works records... yeah that’s dominance at an unprecedented level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August4th Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 I've seen some hockey fans say Mario was just as good as Wayne, but injuries/cancer cut his career short so many times and he also played in a era where scoring was tougher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 13 minutes ago, August4th said: I've seen some hockey fans say Mario was just as good as Wayne, but injuries/cancer cut his career short so many times and he also played in a era where scoring was tougher With hockey there are plenty of fans that watched either Mario, Howe or Orr and will swear by them. But if you only watched Gretzky or are an average casual fan, odds are your choice is Gretzky. But the overall sentiment is that, Gretzky is the GOAT to most fans aside from some loyal hold overs, just like Brady is the GOAT to most fans aside from some loyal holdovers. Jordan on the other hand is clearly the GOAT to people who watched him but he’s never escaped debates with Wilt, Kareem and now Lebron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamblinMan99 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 5 hours ago, mission27 said: For me, Brady and Gretzky are relatively close. Because in both cases they are clearly head and shoulders the GOAT in their sports That has absolutely nothing to do with being a pure athlete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 1 hour ago, RamblinMan99 said: That has absolutely nothing to do with being a pure athlete. If it’s about being a pure athlete then in team sports it’s probably Wilt Chamberlain who even has a shot and we really should exclusively be discussing boxers and the Olympic triathlon/decathlon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Plissken Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 2 hours ago, August4th said: I've seen some hockey fans say Mario was just as good as Wayne, but injuries/cancer cut his career short so many times and he also played in a era where scoring was tougher They both played in the same era. Gretzky 79-99 Lemieux 84-97. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jameson_Neat Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 4 hours ago, August4th said: I've seen some hockey fans say Mario was just as good as Wayne, but injuries/cancer cut his career short so many times and he also played in a era where scoring was tougher Those fans are probably from the Pittsburgh area. Tell them that McDavid is the most dominant forward since Jagr, just for kicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearerofnews Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 On 5/5/2021 at 5:51 AM, ET80 said: Your opinion on literally anything is now worthless. I should ban you for this nonsense. This is cyber bullying. 🤓 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeptunePenguins Posted May 6, 2021 Author Share Posted May 6, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, 7DnBrnc53 said: I check and I raise you with this video I'm going to be honest, I didn't watch this Jordan video like at all, so yeah I just searched Michael Jordan was overrated. Probably has some decent points given it does have slightly more thumbs up, but then again I didn't watch it. Jordan is still within my top 2 maybe 3 best players ever. I don't really have a number 1 tbh, so neither LeBron, Jordan, or any other player I have at such a high spot tbh. The only thing I know for sure is that Jordan is way better than #11 of all-time. Edited May 6, 2021 by NeptunePenguins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinSting Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 It's been pretty much 30 years of "I wonder who is #2 behind Jordan?" It's 2021 and nothing has changed. I wonder who is #2 behind Jordan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Serena Williams is the GOAT is we are talking all sports... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifeelasleep Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Shockwave said: Serena Williams is the GOAT is we are talking all sports... yeah, no, not even the goat in tennis. She has 23 grand slams, 23 Masters 1000 (where only the top top players play, second in achievement) 73 career titles. (Navratilova has 167) Olympic golds (dominant, you could argue if they mean much, but lets take it into account) Djokovic has 18 Grand slams 36 masters 1000, hes the only one that has won all of them and has done it twice! 83 career titles Most weeks at number 1 ranking If you looked at them now itd be an argument, but djokovic is winning 3-2 majors a year for now and the foreseeable future, He has a lot of years left as he is 6 years younger than serena. He is going to explode every record in the tennis book, in the toughest era against federer and nadal. and its in mens tennis the level is higher. He´s already the best ever in tennis, and im a federer fan. ive seen them play all their career, if you said best wta player i would agree. Edited May 7, 2021 by ifeelasleep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dbrog24 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 (edited) How exactly could you consider Gretzky the GOAT of all sports? He was basically the Wilt Chamberlain of the NHL. If we are talking about the greatest winner in all of major sports (not Olympics), that's Bill Russell. 11/13 championship seasons (1 being player/coach btw). No one even comes close to that. Once you start including other factors, eh ok. It's not like I'm gonna argue someone if they have Jordan or Brady #1...there's an argument to be had for them. I'm just saying it's not clear cut and depends on criteria. I personally would put Brady ahead of Jordan and Russell above both of them, but again, that's just me. Side Note: I absolutely LOVE/HATE athletes like Brady or Jordan. They both have those qualities that just strike terror in your heart everytime you face them because you know they are going to find a way to win, even if it's coming back from insane deficits. For me, as heartbreaking as it feels sometimes, that encapsulates the reason I love sports; rarely feel that emotion elsewhere Edited May 7, 2021 by Dbrog24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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