showtime Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 What about the idea that the Giants have a new offensive coordinator and system. Beckham Jr. seems primed to miss a lot of time. He hasn't been with Eli Manning this off-season because he's touring and hanging with his friends. And now there are reports of him holding out until he gets his mega contract - a contract that the Giants do not need to give him right now. This doesn't exactly look all that great for Beckham Jr's upcoming season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr LBC Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 11 minutes ago, minutemancl said: Now, do I think that they won't take phone calls of inquiry if this faux (at least where the initial report is concerned) report stirs up activity or interest from other teams (I find it hard to believe that other teams haven't called already though as soon as anything remotely close to the word "holdout" came out of OBJ's camp)? Of course. But unless they're bowled over by an offer, I refer back to my earlier post about how this is one of those situations where no one is going to offer the kind of compensation the Giants would require AND be willing to give OBJ the money he's demanding. You do that for QB's, pass-rushers in their prime, and that may be it at this point (I don't even know that OT's or CB's command THAT much anymore because scheme and surrounding talent can do a lot to make up the difference). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Vacchiano has been on the Giants beat for a long time. I trust him as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 22 minutes ago, showtime said: What about the idea that the Giants have a new offensive coordinator and system. Beckham Jr. seems primed to miss a lot of time. He hasn't been with Eli Manning this off-season because he's touring and hanging with his friends. And now there are reports of him holding out until he gets his mega contract - a contract that the Giants do not need to give him right now. This doesn't exactly look all that great for Beckham Jr's upcoming season. Eli is the only pro quarterback to throw Odell passes. They've been throwing since Odell was in high school. Their rapport isnt an issue. The new offense is a good point though. But he will get the playbook like any other player on the team. He probably was going to miss most of the preseason anyway due to rehab from his injury, so he would be taking mental reps anyway. None of that is a reason to trade a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showtime Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, minutemancl said: Eli is the only pro quarterback to throw Odell passes. They've been throwing since Odell was in high school. Their rapport isnt an issue. The new offense is a good point though. But he will get the playbook like any other player on the team. He probably was going to miss most of the preseason anyway due to rehab from his injury, so he would be taking mental reps anyway. None of that is a reason to trade a player. I wasn't saying any of that in terms of trading him. I agree 100% with you in that regard. I was just saying that in terms of him maybe struggling this upcoming season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Smithers Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 People love to say well WR isnt an important position and how paying WRs doesn’t lead to SBs. Paying any single position doesbt lead to SBs. There is no way you can tell me the Giants aren’t a better team with Odell. Game changers are worth the money and he is certified game changer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 15 minutes ago, Kip Smithers said: People love to say well WR isnt an important position and how paying WRs doesn’t lead to SBs. Paying any single position doesbt lead to SBs. There is no way you can tell me the Giants aren’t a better team with Odell. Game changers are worth the money and he is certified game changer. It’s cost benefit. WR’s end up getting paid more than they are valued so elite WR’s tend to end up being burdens on teams. Are the Giants better with him, depends on how much you are paying for him. On rookie contract yeah he easily is. At 20 million you start looking at what you have to live without for him and then it becomes tougher. He’s been on the team for 4 years, the Giants has one winning season and it had more to do with their defense and they were nowhere near the Super Bowl. Tbh I wouldn’t even have paid Calvin Johnson that much if he was around today. So many teams get stuck paying a Calvin Johnson or Adrian Peterson and he becomes the primary feature of their team and they don’t do anything unless a Brett Favre falls in their lap. And the Giants are in a rebuild, they aren’t going from 3-13 to a Super Bowl anytime in the next 2-3 seasons. So realize you’ll be paying him all this money in a rebuild. If they were close then it might be different. Then you might want to keep an impact player and not rock the boat. They aren’t close. You give him a five year contract and your probably not even competitive until the last two years of it, and even that’s a big IF because I don’t like Eli’s odds of making it that far, which gives you a whole other question mark. You might pay him , then when the teams in better shape all of a sudden you have to find a new guy to throw to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 He isn't going anywhere. I don't see any team giving up what it would take for the Giants to even consider making a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopherwrestler Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 I remember when he lost a fight with a kicking net.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 So he wants QB money coming off a major injury? Thanks but no thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Is he on crack? *waits for someone to state the correct drug OBJ uses* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACO Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 OBJ going nowhere but you can tell he is a headache of a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asciimo Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 rams are all over this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedTheClock Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Calvert28 said: Is he on crack? *waits for someone to state the correct drug OBJ uses* Heroin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbuff23835 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 I can’t believe the hate obj is getting lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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