ny92mike Posted January 31, 2020 Author Share Posted January 31, 2020 Just now, BowserBroncos said: I could manage both no problem. Okay thank you. I'm going to hold off on getting you the workbook for the team until I get these new team rosters workbooks finished up. Most likely Sat, but maybe as early as friday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodatOL Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 On 29.1.2020 at 12:35 PM, whodatOL said: KC wins 38 - 24 Hasn't been added to the list yet @ny92mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted January 31, 2020 Author Share Posted January 31, 2020 1 minute ago, whodatOL said: Hasn't been added to the list yet @ny92mike Recorded...thanks man. New Orleans Saints NO @whodatOL KC 38 SF 24 62 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 So I am intrested in getting PMs from GMs on players they would trade for a 6th or 7th round pick. Idk if I will make a trade but I'd like to weigh my options vs. Using the picks in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowserBroncos Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 So, I'm going to take over the Bears and I'll be looking to add both cap and picks. I'll post the Trade Block here and then make on the workbook when Mike send us the revised ones. Bears trade block: QB - Mitchell Trubisky RB - Tarik Cohen WR - Taylor Gabriel WR - Cordarrelle Patterson TE - Trey Burton OLB - Leonard Floyd CB - Prince Amukamara CB - Buster Skrine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted January 31, 2020 Author Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) Good morning, So I spent some time tonight trying to develop a better extension process that rather than having guidelines for various types but something that groups them all with the exception of actually tagged players. A quick note about this is that I sent this to sparky151 because he accepted my invitation to help me figure this out, so the example used is Joe Mixon. I'm posting it here for a couple reasons; transparency being one but I've learned over the years its best to get more than one opinion or more than one or two looking for potential issues as well as possible loopholes it could create. Proposal for Extension Changes So to avoid having to create two different systems to handle rookie / vet types, this is what I'm looking at doing, @sparky151 as noted I sent you something very similar to this detailing this proposed fix. I personally do not see extensions as a money savings process. There is a reason why the league has extensions and restructures. As you already know that the sole purpose of the restructure is to take current cap hits and push them into the future that in many cases creates massive savings for the current year. Where I view extensions as a process to retain valued players that are rapidly approaching the open market. It's a process specifically designed avoid losing the player to a team willing to offer more money. So these must be looked at least in my opinion as something of value not only for the franchise but the player as well. An extension contract can't be forced on the player. Even restructuring a players contract when the amount of the overall value of the contract doesn't change; the player still must sign off on it. So again, these have to contain a value high enough that would justify a player signing it and it has to be packaged to fit every player or teams situation because doing this on a case by case where myself or someone else determines the value would just be subjective opinion. So understand that I'm looking for something that will satisfy the bulk of these player/team variables and not just looking at one specific player. The first thing is allowing extensions for players ONLY in their contract year, not two years away from the open market. IF this does happen frequently enough irl I'd be okay with keeping this current rule but my personal opinion is that anything greater than a contract year is to benefit the team's finances and not the players bank account which should be considered. Using the example of Joe Mixon RB Mixon's expected APY and contract terms are listed as such Min APY Value $4,523,100 Min SB Value $5,987,285 Contract Length (can exceed by 2 yrs) 5 Which would be a very underrated in contractual value across the board. No agent would ever allow his player of Mixons caliber to sign a 5 year deal of this amount and under the current structure the contract length that you create can exceed an additional 2 years. Which would really be a steal and totally unrealistic in every way. So rather than basing the value of the contract strictly on an APY value we also focus on the number of years that the player is being extended. How it would work Extending the player to an overall contract length of 3 years or less the APY value would be the greater value of either the players expected APY value, in this example $4,523,100 and the lowest 5th year option value for his position which is $4,564,603 (see chart below for all positional values). In this case the higher amount of the 5th year option value is used as the APY, again for contract extensions of 3 or less. Extending past the 3 years the values for the various tag amounts are used, meaning the greater number of years you look to extend the more you'll be paying out. 4 year = Transitional Tag value ($7,372,270) 5 year = Non-Exclusive Tag value ($8,505,332) 6 year = Exclusive Tag value ($13,480,000) 7 year = Exclusive Tag value * 120% ($16,176,000) Edit: Or the expected APY values keeping with the greater than amount Could even apply a similar system to boost the required values for guaranteed money. Using a structure such as this I'm not certain we would need to develop additional guidelines for 1st round picks, but please give this proposal some thought and review the values below for all positions considering any potential issues as well as loopholes that might develop within this structure and let me know what you think. I have got to get this resolved soon so that I can get these new workbooks out to you guys and would like to have that done by Sat night at the latest. Pos. 120% Excusive Rights Franchise Tag Non-Exclusive Right Franchise Tag Transitional Tag 5th Year Opt - Top 10 5th Year Opt - Other QB $40,126,243 $33,438,536 $27,497,353 $25,208,677 $25,208,677 $17,264,868 34OLB $25,034,000 $20,861,667 $15,561,667 $11,588,200 $11,588,200 $5,989,019 43DT $23,051,040 $19,209,200 $11,934,150 $10,469,575 $10,469,575 $6,212,112 43DE $22,911,360 $19,092,800 $15,645,000 $13,719,167 $13,719,167 $9,511,269 WR $22,612,001 $18,843,334 $16,327,000 $15,220,900 $15,220,900 $11,330,435 LT $20,571,408 $17,142,840 $15,643,334 $14,190,490 $14,190,490 $9,531,020 34DE $19,886,880 $16,572,400 $14,705,350 $12,429,750 $12,429,750 $6,125,042 CB $19,757,000 $16,464,167 $15,248,262 $14,207,881 $14,207,881 $11,100,327 S $18,039,200 $15,032,667 $13,077,895 $10,632,097 $10,632,097 $6,774,348 ILB $17,544,014 $14,620,012 $12,062,012 $9,823,506 $9,823,506 $5,715,800 RT $16,994,760 $14,162,300 $10,342,500 $8,529,871 $8,529,871 $5,155,809 RB $16,176,000 $13,480,000 $8,505,332 $7,372,270 $7,372,270 $4,564,603 RG $16,060,920 $13,384,100 $11,512,141 $9,763,871 $9,763,871 $5,885,874 C $14,564,081 $12,136,734 $10,595,900 $9,632,117 $9,632,117 $6,087,009 43OLB $14,273,700 $11,894,750 $10,562,463 $8,160,513 $8,160,513 $4,338,800 TE $13,551,977 $11,293,314 $9,721,838 $8,133,069 $8,133,069 $5,279,948 LG $13,080,000 $10,900,000 $10,111,250 $7,583,555 $7,583,555 $3,679,164 34DT $10,036,930 $8,364,108 $4,647,965 $3,721,257 $3,721,257 $1,748,199 K $5,820,000 $4,850,000 $4,554,118 $4,085,845 $4,085,845 $2,478,668 P $4,400,880 $3,667,400 $3,460,800 $2,979,900 $2,979,900 $1,657,810 FB $3,450,000 $2,875,000 $2,617,500 $1,832,350 $1,832,350 $828,477 LS $1,439,400 $1,199,500 $1,299,600 $1,179,102 $1,179,102 $904,667 Arizona CardinalsARI@LuckyNumber11 Atlanta FalconsATL @Techbert Baltimore RavensBAL@ravens5520 Buffalo BillsBUF@nayad Carolina PanthersCAR@PR Chicago BearsCHI Cincinnati BengalsCIN@sparky151 Cleveland BrownsCLE@cortes02 Dallas CowboysDAL@D82 Denver BroncosDEN@BowserBroncos@FRock24Detroit LionsDET@winitall Green Bay PackersGB@squire12 Houston TexansHOU@jch1911 Indianapolis ColtsIND@Counselor Jacksonville JaguarsJAC@Trojan Kansas City ChiefsKC@samsel23@TedLavieLos Angeles ChargersLAC@wwhickok Los Angeles RamsLAR@jrry32@yoinesh123Miami DolphinsMIA@mountainpd Minnesota VikingsMIN@MikeT14 New Orleans SaintsNO@whodatOL New England PatriotsNE@Deadpulse New York GiantsNYG@YogiBiz@ny92mikeNew York JetsNYJ@KingOfTheDot Las Vegas RaidersLVR@DTMW78 Philadelphia EaglesPHI@EaglesPeteC Pittsburgh SteelersPIT@Cbrunn San Francisco 49ersSF@Justone2 Seattle SeahawksSEA@Juan7637 Tampa Bay BuccaneersTB@rackcs Tennessee TitansTEN@bcb1213 Washington RedskinsWAS@mike23md Edited January 31, 2020 by ny92mike 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted January 31, 2020 Author Share Posted January 31, 2020 12 minutes ago, BowserBroncos said: So, I'm going to take over the Bears and I'll be looking to add both cap and picks. I'll post the Trade Block here and then make on the workbook when Mike send us the revised ones. Bears trade block: QB - Mitchell Trubisky RB - Tarik Cohen WR - Taylor Gabriel WR - Cordarrelle Patterson TE - Trey Burton OLB - Leonard Floyd CB - Prince Amukamara CB - Buster Skrine @YogiBiz Might not have any interest in them but tagged you so it doesn't get overlooked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YogiBiz Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) So I haven't posted one yet. But here's my predictions: KC 31 SF 20 @ny92mike Edited January 31, 2020 by YogiBiz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowserBroncos Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 20 minutes ago, ny92mike said: How it would work Extending the player to an overall contract length of 3 years or less the APY value would be the greater value of either the players expected APY value, in this example $4,523,100 and the lowest 5th year option value for his position which is $4,564,603 (see chart below for all positional values). In this case the higher amount of the 5th year option value is used as the APY, again for contract extensions of 3 or less. Extending past the 3 years the values for the various tag amounts are used, meaning the greater number of years you look to extend the more you'll be paying out. 4 year = Transitional Tag value ($7,372,270) 5 year = Non-Exclusive Tag value ($8,505,332) 6 year = Exclusive Tag value ($13,480,000) 7 year = Exclusive Tag value * 120% ($16,176,000) Edit: Or the expected APY values keeping with the greater than amount I hear you on the Mixon value, he makes a good example. The 4 million APY value is low but is he an exception to this concept system or are there more and if so how many more. If you put his value at the 8 million mark where I agree is where it should be does it prevent a larger group of lessor talent from being extended. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cbrunn Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 @ny92mike Chiefs 28 49ers 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted January 31, 2020 Author Share Posted January 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, YogiBiz said: So I haven't posted one yet. But here's my predictions: KC 31 SF 20 @ny92mike Sorry man...wasn't thinking when I posted my predictions for the team...Not use to being the coGM. I'll swap out mine with yours...I had it a low scoring game that SF wins. SF 17 KC 10 27 CHANGED FOR THE RECORD New York Giants NYG @YogiBiz @ny92mike KC 31 SF 20 51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted January 31, 2020 Author Share Posted January 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Cbrunn said: @ny92mike Chiefs 28 49ers 17 RECORDED Pittsburgh Steelers PIT @Cbrunn KC 28 SF 17 45 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cbrunn Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Any team looking for a bit of cap relief Steelers could take on a little salary for the right WR or TE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 @ny92mike SF 31 KC 29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted January 31, 2020 Author Share Posted January 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, Deadpulse said: @ny92mike SF 31 KC 29 New England Patriots NE @Deadpulse SF 31 KC 29 60 Recorded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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