Trojan Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 The only way I can see the Buccaneers FA being graded among the worst, is that it isn't taking into account the Buccaneers cap room. Paying that kind of money on a team tight on cap makes no sense, but the Buccaneers faced near competition on all three big bids that were won and are not crippled in the least cap wise. In fact we have around 15 mil left, which is fair compared to a lot of the participating teams. Would it have been a greater success to have simply maintained cap space and fielded the Buccs 2017 defense? I doubt many would say so. Johnson and Breeland combined are comparable per year to the cost of Suh, throw in Poe and it's less than Suh and Andre Branch. Personally I don't understand how one could think this is a poor take on the offseason -- the contracts don't even balloon as many others handed out do, so at no point are the Buccaneers handicapped. Zero players were restructured on the Buccs, therefore no money pushed into the future to manipulate a "bigger" this year. Mike Evans was extended. Muhammad Wilkerson, Dontari Poe, Robert Quinn, Trumaine Johnson, Breeshad Breeland, and Jimmie Ward were added to dramatically improve the defense. We are competing against Drew Brees, Matt Ryan and Cam Newton. Defense is needed. Wilkerson and Poe should help against the Saints dynamic run game and keep offensive linemen from blowing up linebackers. Trumaine, a top left boundary corner, has size and press abilities that should provide significant upgrades over the 34? 35? year old 5'10" Brent Grimes going up against the likes of Julio Jones and Michael Thomas. Bashaud Breeland is one of the top right boundary corners, and likewise provides size, age, and schematic upgrades. The only secondary loss was Grimes, who signed for roughly what Breeland got. Johnson, had I not bid significant signing bonus to, would have gone for more money to the Jets -- who I assume you are knocking for having not spent their cap room. What's Better: 5T: William Gholston || Muhammad Wilkerson 1T: Chris Baker || Dontari Poe 3T: Gerald McCoy || Gerald McCoy 9T: Noah Spence/Robert Ayers || Robert Quinn/Noah Spence LB: Kwon Alexander || Kwon Alexander LB: Lavonte David || Lavonte David LCB: Brent Grimes || Trumaine Johnson RCB: Vernon Hargreaves || Bashaud Breeland Nickel: Robert McClain || Vernon Hargreaves S: Justin Evans || Justin Evans S: TJ Ward || Jimmie Ward Jimmie Ward likely doesn't return in 2019 (traded for him on a 5th year rookie contract), and if he does it's cheaper or he played lights out. Offensively Demarco Murray and Mike Iupati are rentals, that's like 15 mil returned if they don't play up to the level we need (or make the team out of training camp). There are very few significant holes left on the Buccs. The obvious ones are OL (guard and/or center [Marpet, Smith and Dotson are good; Iupati serviceable]) and RB (Peyton Barber was good in limited time, Demarco Murray is old). Depth is the other thing that could be upgraded, but that's every team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainpd Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Trojan said: The only way I can see the Buccaneers FA being graded among the worst, is that it isn't taking into account the Buccaneers cap room. Paying that kind of money on a team tight on cap makes no sense, but the Buccaneers faced near competition on all three big bids that were won and are not crippled in the least cap wise. In fact we have around 15 mil left, which is fair compared to a lot of the participating teams. Would it have been a greater success to have simply maintained cap space and fielded the Buccs 2017 defense? I doubt many would say so. Johnson and Breeland combined are comparable per year to the cost of Suh, throw in Poe and it's less than Suh and Andre Branch. Personally I don't understand how one could think this is a poor take on the offseason -- the contracts don't even balloon as many others handed out do, so at no point are the Buccaneers handicapped. Zero players were restructured on the Buccs, therefore no money pushed into the future to manipulate a "bigger" this year. Mike Evans was extended. Muhammad Wilkerson, Dontari Poe, Robert Quinn, Trumaine Johnson, Breeshad Breeland, and Jimmie Ward were added to dramatically improve the defense. We are competing against Drew Brees, Matt Ryan and Cam Newton. Defense is needed. Wilkerson and Poe should help against the Saints dynamic run game and keep offensive linemen from blowing up linebackers. Trumaine, a top left boundary corner, has size and press abilities that should provide significant upgrades over the 34? 35? year old 5'10" Brent Grimes going up against the likes of Julio Jones and Michael Thomas. Bashaud Breeland is one of the top right boundary corners, and likewise provides size, age, and schematic upgrades. The only secondary loss was Grimes, who signed for roughly what Breeland got. Johnson, had I not bid significant signing bonus to, would have gone for more money to the Jets -- who I assume you are knocking for having not spent their cap room. What's Better: 5T: William Gholston || Muhammad Wilkerson 1T: Chris Baker || Dontari Poe 3T: Gerald McCoy || Gerald McCoy 9T: Noah Spence/Robert Ayers || Robert Quinn/Noah Spence LB: Kwon Alexander || Kwon Alexander LB: Lavonte David || Lavonte David LCB: Brent Grimes || Trumaine Johnson RCB: Vernon Hargreaves || Bashaud Breeland Nickel: Robert McClain || Vernon Hargreaves S: Justin Evans || Justin Evans S: TJ Ward || Jimmie Ward Jimmie Ward likely doesn't return in 2019 (traded for him on a 5th year rookie contract), and if he does it's cheaper or he played lights out. Offensively Demarco Murray and Mike Iupati are rentals, that's like 15 mil returned if they don't play up to the level we need (or make the team out of training camp). There are very few significant holes left on the Buccs. The obvious ones are OL (guard and/or center [Marpet, Smith and Dotson are good; Iupati serviceable]) and RB (Peyton Barber was good in limited time, Demarco Murray is old). Depth is the other thing that could be upgraded, but that's every team. Like I said don’t hate. Lucky I didn’t do full fa grades for every team ike I was going to. I only looked at free agent signings not trades and transactions this is not a reflection on the whole offseason. I didn’t like the Johnson contract and thought you would go after a offensive player too. I realise that we are only half way through free agency. The dolphins contracts you highlight were not mine and the reason we are in cap trouble irl. I’m just not a fan of Breeland which I accept may put me in the minority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcb1213 Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Good luck to dirk with that group of head cases tho lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 FREE AGENCY NEWS Not a ton of action this week in free agency as a record number of free agents have already been signed over the past 4 rounds. 271 players signed stripping the league of almost 900 million this year and an expected payout for the grand total contract amount of $4,279,119,782....That's right over 4 Billion dollars. So it's not surprising that only half the league has entered into this free agency, with the low turn out, those are attempting to sign players shouldn't have much trouble signing them as 80% of the 40+ pending contracts are planning to sign new deals with new teams. Deadline is tonight to have your offers completed, still plenty of time for things to change as teams slowly find the money and need to make more offers. Round 5 Free Agency Bidding (40% APY decrease) Deadline to have contracts created – Fri, Mar 2nd @ 9pm FA Bidding Results - Fri, Mar 2nd @ 10pm Round 6 Free Agency Bidding (50% APY decrease) Deadline to have contracts created – Sun, Mar 4th @ 9pm FA Bidding Results - Sun, Mar 4th @ 10pm Note: NFL Combine ends - Mon, Mar 5th Remember the last reserve trigger for the upcoming fa bidding round (Round 6) that any qualifying reserve offer will be included into the fa award process. In the workbook you have 6 allotted contracts, that you can use to place reserve contracts on players previously on your roster. However, these contracts must be triggered by another action, either by another team or yourself to be included in the award bidding process. Reserve Bidding Triggers Another team must make a qualifying contract bid on the player. You make a contract bid using one of the 3 allotted UFA bids. Wait until the 6th round of free agent bidding. @LuckyNumber11 @bcb1213 @SirA1 @NickChowaniec @BringinDaPain @winitall @sparky151 @cortes02 @Desperado82 @BowserBroncos @IDOG_det @squire12 @jch1911 @Counselor @IrishHooligan00 @samsel23 @ChaRisMa @Fragafootball @mountainpd @PurpleMugen @whodatOL @Deadpulse @KingOfTheDot @daineraider @EaglesPeteC @davidderion @Forge @One Punch Man @Trojan @DTMW78 @Cbrunn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainpd Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 I need round 6. Need the apy to drop more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, ny92jefferis said: TRADE AWARDS Tell us your opinions of the current trades. Which trades stood out to you either positive or negative. TCMD Trades in order of transaction On 2/10/2018 at 2:34 PM - Dolphins trade Ja’Waun James, RT to Denver for 4th round #108. On 2/10/2018 at 4:06 PM - Rams trade Robert Quinn, LB/DE to Buccaneers for 3rd round pick and DeSean Jackson, WR. On 2/10/2018 at 4:01 PM –Jets trade Muhammad Wilkerson, 34DE to Buccaneers for 4th round pick. On 2/10/2018 at 4:15 PM – Rams trade 4th 123 overall and 6th 200 overall to Denver for Aqib Talib,CB and Max Garcia, LG. On 2/10/2018 at 5:15 PM – Titans trade Demarco Murray, RB and their 4th round pick to TB for Kendall Beckwith, LB and 6th round pick. On 2/10/2018 at 5:22 PM – Ravens trade 4th round 120 overall to New England for Phillip Dorsett, WR. On 2/10/2018 at 4:56 PM – Dolphins trade draft pick overall 134 to Jaguars for J. Parnell, RT and overall pick 230. On 2/10/2018 at 8:21 PM – Eagles trade Vinny Curry to New England for 4th round pick 120. On 2/10/2018 at 3:51 PM – Dolphins trade Stephone Anthony, LB to Panthers for Wes Horton, DE On 2/10/2018 at 4:14 PM – Ravens trade Za’Darius Smith, LB to Panthers for John Theus, RG. On 2/11/2018 at 5:55 AM – Redskins trade Vernon Davis, TE to the Ravens for Jeremy Maclin, WR. On 2/11/2018 at 6:26 PM – Raiders trade Michael Crabtree, WR to the Bears for Pernell McPhee, LB On 2/11/2018 at 8:12 PM – Giants trade 2nd overall to Jets for 6th overall, 2nd round pick 5 and 1st round pick in 2019. On 2/12/2018 at 5:00 AM – Panthers trade 7th round 242 to Denver for Jeff Heuerman, TE and Jordan Leslie, WR. On 2/10/2018 at 5:57 PM – Lions trade overall picks 82 (3rd) and 155 (5th) to Seattle for Michael Bennett, DE. On 2/12/2018 at 9:24 AM – Niners trade Arik Armstead, DE and overall 75 to Seattle for Earl Thomas, S. On 2/12/2018 at 9:24 AM – Jaguars trade Marcell Dareus, DT & 134 (4th) to Seattle for KJ Wright, LB & 170 (5th). On 2/12/2018 at 12:34 PM – Niners trade Reuben Foster, LB to Panthers for 3rd round pick 88. On 2/13/2018 at 6:31 PM – Eagles trade Nick Foles to Jaguars for 2nd round pick 61, 4th round pick 131 and 2019 2nd round pick. On 2/13/2018 at 5:23 PM – Dallas trade Tyrone Crawford, DE to Denver for Emmanuel Sanders, WR. On 2/13/2018 at 1:46 PM – New England trade Mike Gillislee, RB and overall 208 to Niners for overall 188. On 2/13/2018 at 8:25 PM – Raiders trade Rodney Hudson, C and Donald Penn to Bengals for AJ Green and Cedric Ogbuehi. On 2/14/2018 at 10:14 PM – Niners trade Eli Harold, LB and overall pick 70 to Rams for Mark Barron, LB and overall pick 87. On 2/14/2018 at 10:29 PM – Lions trade Anthony Zettel, DE to Rams for Rodger Saffold & Samson Ebukam, LB. On 2/14/2018 at 10:51 PM – Panthers trade Preston Smith, LB and Su’a Cravens, LB to Washington for Ryan Kalil, C, Thomas Davis, LB and Zack Sanchez, CB. On 2/15/2018 at 12:39 PM – Bears trade 4th round 107th overall to Dallas for Terrance Williams, WR and 4th round 118th overall. On 2/16/2018 at 1:16 PM – Giants trade 5th round pick 2 to Titans for Kevin Dodd, DE On 2/16/2018 at 8:46 PM – Texans trade Kareem Jackson, CB and Braxton Miller, WR and 6th round pick 180 to Dallas for Byron Jones, S, Cole Beasley, WR and overall 196. On 2/17/2018 at 2:38 AM – Panthers trade 2nd round pick 56 and conditional 2019 4th rounder to Dallas for Dez Bryant, WR. On 2/17/2018 at 6:04 PM – Dallas trade picks 56, 81 and 174 to Miami for 42, 113 and Ted Larsen,C/G. On 2/18/2018 at 11:00 AM – Texans trade LaTroy Lewis, LB to Tampa Bay for Michael Liedtke, G. On 2/18/2018 at 1:51 PM – Giants trade Eli Apple, CB to Cleveland for 3rd round pick 1. On 2/19/2018 at 10:39 AM – Oakland trades Jihad Ward and ovr. 187 to Vikings for Laquon Treadwell. On 2/19/2018 at 2:09 PM – Washington trade Chase Roullier, C and Jamison Crowder, WR to Chiefs for Dee Ford, LB and Eric Murray, S. On 2/20/2018 at 11:10 AM – Seattle trade Richard Sherman, CB to Vikings for Stephen Weatherly, DE and Aviante Collins, RT. On 2/20/2018 at 5:04 PM – Washington trade Jordan Reed, TE to Denver for Zach Kerr, DE and 4th round pick 10. On 2/20/2018 at 5:13 PM – Seattle trade picks 18 and 82 to Buffalo for 22 and Cordy Glenn, LT. On 2/20/2018 at 6:47 PM – Denver trade overall pick 5 to Oakland for overall pick 9, 3rd round pick 10 and 2019 6th round pick and Jon Feliciano, C. On 2/20/2018 at 6:39 PM – Steelers trade Martavis Bryant, WR and 7th overall 246 to Falcons for Tevin Coleman, RB and overall 256. On 2/21/2018 at 12:03 PM – Eagles trade Jason Peters, LT to Rams for a 5th round pick 162. On 2/21/2018 at 1:18 PM – Arizona trade 7th 254 to the Saints for Zach Strief (potential retire). On 2/21/2018 at 1:56 PM – Buffalo trade Tyrod Taylor, QB to Arizona for 5th overall 154. On 2/21/2018 at 3:56 PM – Raiders trade Bruce Irvin, LB to Green Bay for 6th 189 overall. On 2/22/2018 at 10:59 AM – Vikings trade Cayleb Jones, WR to Denver for 6th 200 overall. On 2/22/2018 at 12:15 PM – Chiefs trade Mitch Morse, C and Chris Conley, WR to Seattle for Malik McDowell, DT and CJ Prosise, RB. On 2/22/2018 at 6:17 PM – Washinton trade Tajae Sharpe, WR to Titans for Arie Kouandjio, RG. On 2/22/2018 at 10:18 PM – Raiders trade Vadal Alexander and overall 227 to Eagles for overall 171 in the 5th. On 2/22/2018 at 10:49 PM – Buccaneers trade Caleb Benenoch, RT to Niners for Jimmie Ward, S. On 2/23/2018 at 3:13 PM – Steelers trade Ramon Foster, OG to Titans for overall 164 and 2019 7th round pick. On 2/23/2018 at 9:19 PM – Giants trade Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB to Arizona for 3rd round pick 33. On 2/23/2018 at 6:29 PM – Seahawks trade Duane Brown to New England for overall 136. On 2/24/2018 at 11:06 AM – Cleveland trade Jason McCourty, CB, 2nd round pick 35, 4th round 126 to Kansas City for Marcus Peters, CB. On 2/25/2018 at 1:04 PM – New England trade Cyrus Jones, CB/RS to Eagles for overall 227. On 2/25/2018 at 4:36 PM – Washington trade Fabian Moreau, CB, Brandon Scherff, RG and 2nd round pick 44 to the Bears for Cre'von Leblanc, CB, Josh Sitton, OG, Kyle Long, OG, 2nd round pick 39 and 2019 5th round pick. On 2/25/2018 at 8:00 PM – Giants trade 4th pick 2 to Jets for Kelvin Beachum, LT. On 2/26/2018 at 3:03 AM – Bears trade Matthias Farley, S to Colts for Devontae Booker, RB and 4th 125. On 2/26/2018 at 1:26 PM – Bears trade 147 to Denver for Paxton Lynch, QB and overall 165. On 2/26/2018 at 5:54 PM – Raiders trade pick 195 and conditional 2019 4th round to Houston for Derek Newton, RT. On 2/26/2018 at 5:59 PM – Buccaneers trade 7th overall to Miami for 11th overall, 3rd pick 9. On 2/27/2018 at 9:53 PM – Buccaneers trade pick 205 to Arizona for Mike Iupati, LG. On 2/28/2018 at 12:56 PM – Bears trade 8th and 117 overall to Steelers for overall 28, 60 and 2019 first round pick. On 3/01/2018 at 10:00 PM – Giants trade John Jerry, OG to Colts for Matt Jones, RB. @LuckyNumber11 @bcb1213 @SirA1 @NickChowaniec @BringinDaPain @winitall @sparky151 @cortes02 @Desperado82 @BowserBroncos @IDOG_det @squire12 @jch1911 @Counselor @IrishHooligan00 @samsel23 @ChaRisMa @Fragafootball @mountainpd @PurpleMugen @whodatOL @Deadpulse @KingOfTheDot @daineraider @EaglesPeteC @davidderion @Forge @One Punch Man @Trojan @DTMW78 @Cbrunn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Punch Man Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Panthers acquiring Preston Smith and Sua Cravens is probably my favorite move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainpd Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 As above and I like the Taylor pick up for Arizona. Lions picking up Saffold. Giants got good value on their corners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragafootball Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Giants got some great value there. I like the Vinny Curry trade too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragafootball Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Looking to trade down for extra picks if anyone wants to move up to the 23. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 LEAGUE TRANSACTIONS https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Vp4NLOiL3vC8ishrMOp4e9PXDSjxD-Hzxtv86THte8U/edit?usp=sharing I've compiled this information from the official team rosters. Will be adding more information throughout the weekend. Worth looking at...imo. @LuckyNumber11 @bcb1213 @SirA1 @NickChowaniec @BringinDaPain @winitall @sparky151 @cortes02 @Desperado82 @BowserBroncos @IDOG_det @squire12 @jch1911 @Counselor @IrishHooligan00 @samsel23 @ChaRisMa @Fragafootball @mountainpd @PurpleMugen @whodatOL @Deadpulse @KingOfTheDot @daineraider @EaglesPeteC @davidderion @Forge @One Punch Man @Trojan @DTMW78 @Cbrunn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 FREE AGENCY NEWS Less than 2 hours to get those bids created. Try to be done and sitting in your seat 15 minutes before the deadline. Round 5 Free Agency Bidding (40% APY decrease) Deadline to have contracts created – Fri, Mar 2nd @ 9pm FA Bidding Results - Fri, Mar 2nd @ 10pm Round 6 Free Agency Bidding (50% APY decrease) Deadline to have contracts created – Sun, Mar 4th @ 9pm FA Bidding Results - Sun, Mar 4th @ 10pm Note: NFL Combine ends - Mon, Mar 5th Remember the last reserve trigger for the upcoming fa bidding round (Round 6) that any qualifying reserve offer will be included into the fa award process. In the workbook you have 6 allotted contracts, that you can use to place reserve contracts on players previously on your roster. However, these contracts must be triggered by another action, either by another team or yourself to be included in the award bidding process. Reserve Bidding Triggers Another team must make a qualifying contract bid on the player. You make a contract bid using one of the 3 allotted UFA bids. Wait until the 6th round of free agent bidding. @LuckyNumber11 @bcb1213 @SirA1 @NickChowaniec @BringinDaPain @winitall @sparky151 @cortes02 @Desperado82 @BowserBroncos @IDOG_det @squire12 @jch1911 @Counselor @IrishHooligan00 @samsel23 @ChaRisMa @Fragafootball @mountainpd @PurpleMugen @whodatOL @Deadpulse @KingOfTheDot @daineraider @EaglesPeteC @davidderion @Forge @One Punch Man @Trojan @DTMW78 @Cbrunn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 3 hours ago, Fragafootball said: Looking to trade down for extra picks if anyone wants to move up to the 23. All depends who is available to pick at 23. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 No rumors this round? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jch1911 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, Trojan said: No rumors this round? I kept checking to see if I had the date right... May be because people reading / watching combine highlights and it is Friday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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