Deadpulse Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 VS Come one come all to the tournament arc to end all tournament arcs - MCU characters. For those of you who partook in the Best TV Show of All Time contest, this will run very similarly. Please keep in mind this is NOT a popularity contest. This is a who is the strongest/would win in a fight contest. Please do not consider powerset/abilities from the comics, strictly keep to what has be shown in the MCU. Closes Tuesday 11/2/21 @5pm @Manny/Patrick @PARROTHEAD @THE DUKE @Acgott @titansNvolsR#1 @D82 @Kiltman @thrILL! @TecmoSuperJoe @TitanSlim @Beck Bristow @Bullet Club @Ty21 @kingseanjohn @seminoles1 @Xenos @ET80 @The Gnat @theJ @43M @WizardHawk @August4th @Breesus mode @Fresh Prince @Outpost31 @INbengalfan @minutemancl @KManX89 @RamRod @skywindO2 @NcFinest9erFan @KimuraGod @JoshstraDaymus @rob_shadows @AlexGreen#20 @Daniel @Jakuvious @Tetsujin @Blue @broncofan48 @RuskieTitan @NYRaider @showtime @biggio7 @OhioG @diamondbull424 @hornbybrown @Dr LBC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 I think Vision already won this one 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 This was on accident. Imagine if Vision was trying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted October 31, 2021 Author Share Posted October 31, 2021 Just now, theJ said: I think Vision already won this one If you are referring to this: not sure its fair to count friendly fire as a clear cut "win" scenario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Just now, Deadpulse said: If you are referring to this: not sure its fair to count friendly fire as a clear cut "win" scenario But it's an example of how OP Vision is against Rhodey... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INbengalfan Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 If you can win accidentally, I think it's a quick match when you're focused on doing it FR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Deadpulse said: If you are referring to this: not sure its fair to count friendly fire as a clear cut "win" scenario Just making a joke. But this does seem to suggest that Vision's laser beam can cut through Rhodes' suit. Which means a real fight wouldn't last long. However, these kind of things are pretty inconsistent in the movies. Sometimes it would appear the only thing holding Iron Man's suit together is Stark himself. So who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted October 31, 2021 Author Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 minute ago, ET80 said: But it's an example of how OP Vision is against Rhodey... Is it? Vision is Rhodey's ally here. Rhodey trusted him in this scenario and got shot in the back. Hell Rhoedy CALLED for this shot and trusted Vision to get it done, why would he be looking out for a shot he called? This is not a telling encounter IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Plot armor! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Just now, Deadpulse said: Is it? Vision is Rhodey's ally here. Rhodey trusted him in this scenario and got shot in the back. Hell Rhoedy CALLED for this shot and trusted Vision to get it done, why would he be looking out for a shot he called? This is not a telling encounter IMO It shows that Vision only needs to land one shot. Additionally, the only time Vision is ever harmed in the movies is by one of Thanos' Lieutenants and likely some sort of special blade. I'm not sure Rhodes can hurt him with anything he has. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted October 31, 2021 Author Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 minute ago, theJ said: It shows that Vision only needs to land one shot. Additionally, the only time Vision is ever harmed in the movies is by one of Thanos' Lieutenants and likely some sort of special blade. I'm not sure Rhodes can hurt him with anything he has. im not even saying that this isn't a win from Vision, all I am pointing out is that this one moment does very little to inform an actual face to face fight between the two. You'd be remiss to consider this scene and then make a decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, Deadpulse said: Is it? Vision is Rhodey's ally here. Rhodey trusted him in this scenario and got shot in the back. Hell Rhoedy CALLED for this shot and trusted Vision to get it done, why would he be looking out for a shot he called? This is not a telling encounter IMO Even if it isn't, what does Rhodey have that can counter an Infinity stone, a Jarvis+Ultron AI and a Vibranium armor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Deadpulse said: im not even saying that this isn't a win from Vision, all I am pointing out is that this one moment does very little to inform an actual face to face fight between the two. You'd be remiss to consider this scene and then make a decision. I'm only considering that his beam can cut right through the armor. Which seems pretty OP in this fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Just now, Deadpulse said: im not even saying that this isn't a win from Vision, all I am pointing out is that this one moment does very little to inform an actual face to face fight between the two. You'd be remiss to consider this scene and then make a decision. Remember post-fight, Tony even asked Vision how he could miss. It's hinted - subtly - that Rhodes hitting Wanda prompted the misfire. Something in his programming, something in his AI didn't like Wanda hurting, even if it was non-lethal in nature. (3:15 mark) For all intents and purposes, Vision doesn't miss... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted October 31, 2021 Author Share Posted October 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, ET80 said: Remember post-fight, Tony even asked Vision how he could miss. It's hinted - subtly - that Rhodes hitting Wanda prompted the misfire. Something in his programming, something in his AI didn't like Wanda hurting, even if it was non-lethal in nature. (3:15 mark) For all intents and purposes, Vision doesn't miss... that scene always struck me as strange. Does it suggest that Vision shouldve been able to calculate Falcon dodging and still somehow hit Falcon while he dodged it when he had no reason to dodge it if he calculated the dodge in? Like what? To me this is simply Tony being hyperbolic and angry. He aimed for Falcon's suit like Rhodey asked and Falcon dodged it, end of story. If anything, Vision shouldve known not to take the shot at all. THAT was his miscalculation, not the accuracy of the shot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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